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From: fnord2k@yahoo.com
In article <7943568.0402221239.54260397@posting.google.com>, Robert B.
Winn wrote:
> sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message
> news:...
> > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message
> > news:<7943568.0402211241.5f2d9a18@posting.google.com>...
> > > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message
> > > news:...
> > > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B.
> > > > >
> > > > > > And everyone should be as "dangerous" as I am. I am supporting
> > > > > > personal and civil rights, and opposing people like you that want
to
> > > > > > deny people those rights. Perhaps I am "dangerous" to you, because
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > show everyone your hatred and intolerance, and how little you
regard
> > > > > > people and their opinions and beliefs, but that danger is
> > > > > > intellectual, and a danger to your oppressive agenda. I am not
> > > > > > physcially dangerous to anyone, that is not directly and physically
> > > > > > threatening me or any other human being near me.
> > > > >
> > > > > You are supporting immorality and homicides of children.
> > > >
> > > > Wrong on both counts. Your opinion about what is and is not moral has
> > > > no objective basis. All morality is subjective, since it changes from
> > > > person to person, and over time. It has no objective basis, and
> > > > therefore no place in a secular discussion. You have not shown why
> > > > anyone should care about what you think is moral or immoral.
> > > >
> > > > And you have failed to show where I support the homicide of anyone,
> > > > much less children. Your opinion in the matter is meaningless, and
> > > > your statement is nothing more than a weak ad hominem attack.
> > > >
> > > > If you think that I am supporting the homicide of children, prove it
> > > > objectively.
> > > >
> > > > > How did
> > > > > unborn children directly and physically threaten you?
> > > >
> > > > They don't. But they do directly and physically threaten the women
> > > > that are living off of. And it is the women's rights to her own body,
> > > > and her right to determine how her body can be used and by whom that I
> > > > am defending. For some reason, no matter how many time you are told
> > > > this, you never seem to remember it. Perhaps you just cannot read.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Like I said, You are your own worst enemy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I would not really think so.
> > > > > Robert B. Winn
> > > >
> > > > Of course not. But it is obvious to anyone that reads your posts for
> > > > a while.
> > > >
> > > > I was just trying to get you to improve your posting style, by
> > > > actually staying on subject, for example, and not thinking that
> > > > everyone should accept your subjective opinions without question. I
> > > > know that I am probably wasting my time, trying to help a loser like
> > > > you, but it is my time to waste. And doing so helps my position,
> > > > while your posts hurt yours.
> > > >
> > > > Mark Sebree
> > >
> > > What you say is partly true.
> >
> > More likely it is all true.
> >
> > > A person who goes around pretending that
> > > he cannot tell what a child is
> >
> > Which I have not done. You are pretending that I don't know what a
> > child is.
> >
> > > so that he can justify the killing of
> > > unborn children
> >
> > Don't actually exist. And you have not shown that I am justifying
> > killing any children. Besides, it is the pregnant woman's decision
> > about whether or not to continue her pregnancy. If she does not, then
> > she should not be forced to.
> >
> > Do you support a husband forcing his wife to have sex with him? No?
> > Same thing in essense. Society cannot force a woman to let the
> > embryo/fetus use her body without her permission. If it does, it is
> > forcing her to allow her body to be violated, and she becomes a slave.
> >
> > > is in such bad circumstances that his position can
> > > only improve unless of course,
> >
> > Well, my position is a whole lot better than yours. I am not
> > advocating torture, enslavement, deniable of rights, or forcing my
> > views and opinions on others. You are doing that.
> >
> > > he actually becomes an abortion doctor
> > > and actually performs abortions.
> >
> > Thanks for the compliment. It would be nice to be regarded as an
> > unsung hero, and stand directly against the oppression that you
> > espouse. After all, I would be working to help women.
> >
> > However, it is unlikely that I will go after a medical degree. If I
> > was, I would have started it many years ago.
> >
> > > At any rate I stopped trying to have
> > > a conversation with you long ago.
> > > Robert B. Winn
> >
> > Well, as long as you keep espousing violence against women, forcing
> > them to undergo hardship and torture, I and others will oppose you.
> >
> > After all, that is the right and noble thing to do.
> >
> > Mark Sebree
>
> There is nothing noble about killing children.
Since no one has said there *is*, that's another non-sequitor. How many
does that make now, boobie?
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