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   Message 2,695 of 4,310   
   William to Winn   
   Re: IMMORAL PEOPLE   
   24 Feb 04 08:47:12   
   
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   From: telige@mail.clara.fl.com   
      
   On 23 Feb 2004 19:42:32 -0800, rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B.   
   Winn) wrote:   
      
   >telige@mail.clara.fl.com (William) wrote   
   >> rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B.Winn) wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >You are correct in saying that it was directed at the Pharisees.  This   
   >> >was the most cutting comment that could be made about them.  The   
   >> >Pharisees prided themselves in obeying the letter of the Law of Moses.   
   >> > When Jesus Christ called them a wicked and adulterous generation, he   
   >> >was condemning them in the way that would cut them the deepest, in the   
   >> >source of their greatest pride.   
   >> >Since Jesus Christ was saying that he was Jehovah, the one who   
   >> >gave the Law to Moses, he was saying that they had denied Jehovah, the   
   >> >God that they worshipped.   
   >>   
   >> Jesus never said he was Jehovah. He said, until he was blue in the   
   >> face, that God was his father and that God was greater than he was;   
   >> and that God knew things he didn't know; and that he had to do God's   
   >> will and not his own will.   
   >>   
   >The Pharisees understood what he said.  Before Abraham was, I Am.  And   
   >they took up stones to kill him.  He was saying that he was Jehovah.   
      
   Either you are saying he contradicted himself when he insisted that   
   God was his father and God knew what he didn't know and was greater   
   than he was, or you have made the above mean what it didn't say.   
      
   >> Back to the point. You were wrong to twist the prophecy about   
   >> adulterers to mean those who denied the existence of God. It was   
   >> directed at the Pharasees who never denied the existence of God.   
   >>   
   >The Pharisees understood that people who deny the existence of God and   
   >ask for a sign are adulterers.  They prided themselves on obeying the   
   >letter of the Law of Moses.  Jesus Christ said that they were a wicked   
   >and adulterous generation because they had rejected him.   
      
   No. He said that an adulterous generation seeks a sign. He was   
   speaking to the Pharasees. He didn't say anything about those who   
   don't believe in God. And the fact that an adulterous generation seeks   
   signs doesn't mean that all those who seek signs are an adulterous   
   generation.   
      
   You have tried to twist your scriptures to mean what they don't say.   
      
   William   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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