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From: warnnock@pop.co.za
"Thore Schmechtig" wrote in message
news:c13ed2$1djcva$1@ID-87341.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > What scientists can't do, is to start from scratch, create a
biological
> > > > body, and start up it's heart!
> > > But can *God* do it?
> > ****** It would seem so, there being 6 billion examples of His work to
look
> > at!
>
> Too bad that you have no extrabiblical evidence for that claim, no?
>
> > **** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
> > breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life
into
> > it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
>
> Wrong. It's just proof of... well... today's science being unable to do
> it. In other words: Your claim is a classical non sequitur.
> And even if you were right... "higher intelligence" != christian gawd
****** Well someone 'set up' the universe and gave us the opportunity to
evolve into what we are today! Of necessity, this would be a more
intelligent being, we call Him God!
> > ** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God
> > exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to
comply
> > with God's Law!**
>
> The day one, even a single ONE, of you fundies can present
> extrabiblical proof of your gawd's existence will be the day others
> just MIGHT start believing this.
> Come on, present proof! As for me, you'd be the very first fundie to be
> able to do so!
****** My evidence is the assumption that as we are created, did not create
ourselves, there needs to be a God.
> --
> TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A (CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALIST
>
> 10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of
> gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when
> someone denies the existence of yours.
****** There is ONE God, known by different names, both in mytholigy and
modern theist religions.
> 9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists
> say that people evolved from other life forms, but you
> have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were
> created from dirt.
****** I have no problem with evolution and devolution, and it is obvious
that we are created out of 'dirt'. (Every element in our bodies comes from
earth)
> 8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem
> believing in a Triune God.
>
> 7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the
> "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even
> flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all
> the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the
> elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" --
> including women, children, and trees!
****** Bible stories need to be put into perspective!
> 6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and
> Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have
> no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated
> Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed,
> came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
>
> 5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little
> loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth
> (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with
> believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting
> in their tents and guessing that Earth is a couple of
> generations old.
****** The six days of the Bible, were likely periods of 2 billion years
each.
> 4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet
> with the exception of those who share your beliefs --
> though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend
> Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet
> consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
****** Everyone has the opportunity to get to Heaven, with atheists denying
that there is a God, it will just take a little longer!
> 3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and
> physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot
> rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be
> all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
****** As well as the question of who created mankind!
> 2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it
> comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be
> evidence that prayer works. And you think that the
> remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
****** People who ask intelligent questions or for the type of assistance
that is in their best interests have a good success rate!
> 1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and
> agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church
> history - but still call yourself a Christian.
****** As atheists deny a God or have 'no feelings' for or against, why
should they be SO concerned about what theists get up to?
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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