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   From: telige@mail.clara.fl.com   
      
   On 25 Feb 2004 19:47:52 -0800, rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B.   
   Winn) wrote:   
      
   >telige@mail.clara.fl.com (William) wrote   
   >> rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B.Winn) wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >This is correct.  Only those who deny the existence of God and ask for   
   >> >a sign are designated as adulterers.   
   >>   
   >> The Pharasees were condemned for asking for a sign because of their   
   >> TEACHING  (Matt 16:12). It had nothing to do with denying the   
   >> existence of God - they were staunch believers in God.   
   >>   
   >> It beats me how christians can get away with twisting the text of   
   >> their scriptures to their own ends.  But who cares?   
   >   
   >Yes, they were staunch believers in God, but they rejected Jesus   
   >Christ, who plainly told them he was Jehovah, the God to whom they   
   >prayed.   
      
   Why are you being so obtuse? The Pharasees were, and always had been,   
   staunch believers in the existence of God. Whether or not they   
   accepted that Jesus might have been God is completely irrelevant to   
   that question - they STILL believe in the existence of God.   
      
   Maybe they had heard Jesus stating time and time again that God was   
   his FATHER and that God was GREATER then him (Jesus) and that God knew   
   things that he did not know. If they had concluded that Jesus was not   
   God himself would that have made them someone who denies the existence   
   of God? Of course not.   
      
   And Jesus was not even castigating them for their 'atheism' but   
   because of their religious TEACHING which he disapproved of. Their   
   religious teaching was intrenched and well known and was there long   
   before Jesus came along   
      
   I guess I'm not getting anywhere with this. You have made up your mind   
   that he was castigating them as adulterous for asking for a sign   
   because of their atheism and you won't be shifted from it.  I do   
   wonder what your agenda is in this.   
      
   William   
      
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