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   From: fnord2k@yahoo.com   
      
   In article <040320040745215807%pass@dbarnes.com>, David Barnes   
    wrote:   
      
   > In article <040320040000288119%fnord2k@yahoo.com>, William Klee   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   > > In article <030320042008024263%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>, David Barnes   
   > > wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > In article <7943568.0403030822.3ea5123a@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   > > > Winn wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > David Barnes wrote in message   
   > > > > news:<010320041944552434%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > > In article <7943568.0403011913.15824c44@posting.google.com>, Robert   
   B.   
   > > > > > Winn wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > David Barnes wrote in message   
   > > > > > > news:<290220040931562965%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > > > > In article <7943568.0402290234.3f0809aa@posting.google.com>,   
   > > > > > > > Robert   
   > > > > > > > B.   
   > > > > > > > Winn wrote:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > David Barnes wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > > news:<270220042004512783%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > > > > > > In article <7943568.0402271938.35d935cf@posting.google.com>,   
   > > > > > > > > > Robert   
   > > > > > > > > > B.   
   > > > > > > > > > Winn wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > telige@mail.clara.fl.com (William) wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > > > > news:<403fd63b.13833633@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk>...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > On 27 Feb 2004 04:38:18 -0800, rbwinn47@mybluelight.com   
   > > > (Robert   
   > > > > B.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Winn) wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >Ex 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he   
   > > > said,   
   > > > > Thou   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >shalt say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me   
   > > unto   
   > > > > you.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thou shalt say   
   unto   
   > > the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >children   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >of Israel, The Lord God of your fathers, theeGod of   
   > > Abraham,   
   > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >God   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >of Isaac, the God of Jacob , hath sent me unto you:    
   this   
   > > is   
   > > > my   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >name   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >forever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >Robert B. Winn   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Which, of course, is completely irrelevant.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > William   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Why would you consider it irrelevant?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > For one thing, it is a myth. And you can prove otherwise.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Well, but you did say it was a myth. No one can accuse you of   
   > not   
   > > > > > > > > being true to atheism.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Atheism concerns the lack of belief in God, not the Bible.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > It does not matter what I can prove as long as   
   > > > > > > > > pro-abortion people are able to continue killing children.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > When people avoid their own comments after they are called on the   
   > > > > > > > carpet, you know they have nothing to back it up.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Well, you forgot the 50,000,000 children killed by abortion.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > You are still avoiding. Why?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > If I tell you I am Jesus Christ, do you believe me?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Assuming the answer is no, how do you decide what things you are told   
   > > > > > you will believe and what you wonąt?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Well, I pretty much do not believe anything you say. On the other   
   > > > > hand, I believe everything said by Jesus Christ. Maybe that will help   
   > > > > you see how it works.   
   > > >   
   > > > You are avoiding the question. Why? Why donąt you believe I am Jesus   
   > > > Christ? What criteria do you use when determining whether someone is   
   > > > telling you the truth?   
   > >   
   > > The standard christian criteria, of course: do they agree with him?   
   >   
   > That's it, I guess. I just wish someone could explain to me what   
   > criteria is used to believe something without any proof. If one claims   
   > "there is no proof, I just believe" then how does one choose what   
   > things to believe in without proof? I never get an answer to that.   
      
   The same basic standard, really. Whatever supports existing beliefs and   
   prejudices. That's why gay christians' jesuses don't care about gay   
   sex, while homophobic christians' jesuses think gay should be killed in   
   a painful mannter.   
      
   --   
   ...and in elder days there were wars in the Heavens between the Ibemmeraphim   
   and the Angels of the Apple of Knowledge...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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