XPost: alt.abortion, alt.abortion.inequity, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.support.abortion, talk.abortion, us.issues.abortion   
   From: fnord2k@yahoo.com   
      
   In article <7943568.0403041649.12c97d14@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   Winn  wrote:   
      
   > William Klee  wrote in message   
   > news:<030320040938397867%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > In article <7943568.0403021903.7fd69a85@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   > > Winn  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > William Klee  wrote in message   
   > > > news:<020320041616183667%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > In article <7943568.0403021409.b287842@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   > > > > Winn  wrote:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > William Klee  wrote in message   
   > > > > > news:<010320042155324356%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > > > In article , retired\   
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > news:7943568.0402292121.e4bde95@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > > > > > "MrD Pstychologist \(retired\)"  wrote in   
   > message   
   > >  news:...   
   > > > > > > > > > "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > > > news:7943568.0402291304.3dd7607@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > > > > > > > "MrD Pstychologist \(retired\)"  wrote in   
   > >  message   
   > >  news:...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in   
   > message   
   > > > > > > > > > > > news:7943568.0402290236.93b106d@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > "MrD Pstychologist \(retired\)"    
   > wrote in   
   > > > > > >  message   
   > > > > > >  news:...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in   
   > >  message   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > news:7943568.0402271946.2b5201dd@posti   
   g.google.com...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, you are mistaken about that.  There is   
   an   
   > > > > > >  eyewitness   
   > > > > > >  account of   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the life of Jesus Christ.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is?  Name it, if you can.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MrD   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthew, Mark, John, James, 1 Peter, 2 Peter,   
   > >  Revelations.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who were the eye witnesses that wrote these books?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do we know they were witnesses and not authors of   
   > >  fiction?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Revelations certainly sounds like fiction to me.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > MrD   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > They were all apostles except for Mark, who was a   
   > disciple.   
   > >  Apostles   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > were called as special witnesses of Jesus Christ.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Wow, you've really shown yourself for a deceiver now!   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Show us where it is written that Mark was a disciple.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Apostles are special witnesses of Jesus Christ because   
   > they   
   > >  never   
   > > > > > >  saw   
   > > > > > >  him?!   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Your answer is totally inept.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > MrD   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Matthew, John, and Peter were apostles who were with Jesus   
   > >  Christ   
   > > > > > > > > > > during his ministry.  Mark was a disciple who was with   
   Jesus   
   > >  Christ   
   > > > > > > > > > > during his ministry and is said to be the disciple who ran   
   > away   
   > > > > > > > > > > naked   
   > > > > > > > > > > when his clothing was torn off at the time Jesus Christ was   
   > > > > > > > > > > arrested.   
   > > > > > > > > > > James was the brother of Jesus Christ and was called to be   
   > an   
   > > > > > > > > > > apostle   
   > > > > > > > > > > after the crucifixion.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > I'd like to see some support for these statements. I also   
   > require   
   > > > > > > > > > that   
   > >  you   
   > > > > > > > > > can show me that the Gospels were written by who you state   
   > they   
   > > > > > > > > > were   
   > >  written   
   > > > > > > > > > by.  Start with Mark. Show where he is a disciple and that it   
   > was   
   > > > > > > > > > this   
   > >  same   
   > > > > > > > > > disciple that wrote the book of Mark.   
   > > > > > > > > > If you are truthful in what you say, you will be able to do   
   > these   
   > >  things.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > MrD   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Well, I am going to require the same thing from you.  Show me   
   > that   
   > > > > > > > > you   
   > > > > > > > > were the one who actually wrote this post in alt.abortion.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Another desperate attempt by you, the deceiver.  I take it you   
   > > > > > > > can't   
   > > > > > > > show   
   > > > > > > > me   
   > > > > > > > these things that you state.  Instead you try to dodge by   
   > > > > > > > equivocating   
   > > > > > > > that   
   > > > > > > > I can't show you that I was the one that posted the message.  All   
   > > > > > > > you   
   > > > > > > > have   
   > > > > > > > to do is show all headers in your newsreader and the posting id   
   > > > > > > > will   
   > > > > > > > show   
   > > > > > > > that it is me.   
   > > > > > > > There, I've shown you and you've shown everyone else you are a   
   > > > > > > > coward   
   > > > > > > > and   
   > > > > > > > a   
   > > > > > > > deceiver.  Satan's pawn.  God's bane.   
   > > > > > > > It's not a good thing to lie.   
   > > > > > > > I would think your conscience would be eating at you by now.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > You assume boobie *has* a conscience. You *are* an optimist, aren't   
   > > > > > > you?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > What I said is either true or it is not.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Most of it is not. That's because you're a liar.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > It does not depend on your opinion.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > And yet you think everything hinges on *your* opinions. Isn't Pride   
   > > > > alleged to be a sin in your type of superstition?   
   > > >   
   > > > Actually, the opinion everything depends on is the opinion of Jesus   
   > > > Christ.   
   > >   
   > > Nope, nothing I am, have or do depends on *anything* a fictional   
   > > character may say, do or believe.   
   > >   
   > > > I just try to keep my opinion the same as his.   
   > >   
   > > Odd how jesus' opinions are always the same as each individual   
   > > believer's. A gay christian's jesus doesn't think being gay matters. A   
   > > homophobic christian's jesus thinks gays will burn in hell. A   
   > > pro-choice christian's jesus doesn't get bothered by abortion. Your   
   > > jesus thinks abortion is murder.   
   > >   
   > > That's because each and every one of you finds your personal jesus in   
   > > the mirror.   
   >   
   > Sorry, you are wrong.   
      
   Yeah, sure, I'm wrong, just not in any way you can ever prove.   
      
   --   
   ...and in elder days there were wars in the Heavens between the Ibemmeraphim   
   and the Angels of the Apple of Knowledge...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)