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   XPost: alt.support.abortion, talk.abortion, us.issues.abortion   
   From: fnord2k@yahoo.com   
      
   In article <7943568.0403051706.c92d591@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   Winn  wrote:   
      
   > William Klee  wrote in message   
   > news:<050320041051243725%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > In article <7943568.0403050624.19772f91@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   > > Winn  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > William Klee  wrote in message   
   > > > news:<040320042359447939%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > In article <7943568.0403041649.12c97d14@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   > > > > Winn  wrote:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > William Klee  wrote in message   
   > > > > > news:<030320040938397867%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > > > In article <7943568.0403021903.7fd69a85@posting.google.com>, Robert   
   > > > > > > B.   
   > > > > > > Winn  wrote:   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > William Klee  wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > news:<020320041616183667%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > > > > > In article <7943568.0403021409.b287842@posting.google.com>,   
   > Robert   
   > > > > > > > > B.   
   > > > > > > > > Winn  wrote:   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > William Klee  wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > > > news:<010320042155324356%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > > > > > > > In article , retired\   
   > > > > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in   
   > message   
   > > > > > > > > > > > news:7943568.0402292121.e4bde95@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > "MrD Pstychologist \(retired\)"    
   > wrote in   
   > > > >  message   
   > > > >  news:...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in   
   > >  message   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > news:7943568.0402291304.3dd7607@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "MrD Pstychologist \(retired\)"    
   > >  wrote in   
   > > > > > >  message   
   > > > > > >  news:...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Robert B. Winn"  wrote   
   > in   
   > >  message   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > news:7943568.0402290236.93b106d@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "MrD Pstychologist \(retired\)"   
   >    
   > >  wrote in   
   > > > > > > > > > >  message   
   > > > > > > > > > >  news:...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Robert B. Winn"    
   > wrote   
   > >  in   
   > >  message   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > >  news:7943568.0402271946.2b5201dd@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, you are mistaken about that.   
   > There   
   > >  is an   
   > > > > > > > > > >  eyewitness   
   > > > > > > > > > >  account of   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the life of Jesus Christ.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is?  Name it, if you can.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MrD   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthew, Mark, John, James, 1 Peter, 2   
   > Peter,   
   > >  Revelations.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who were the eye witnesses that wrote these   
   > books?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do we know they were witnesses and not   
   > >  authors of   
   > >  fiction?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Revelations certainly sounds like fiction to   
   > me.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MrD   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They were all apostles except for Mark, who was   
   > a   
   > > > >  disciple.   
   > > > >  Apostles   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > were called as special witnesses of Jesus   
   > Christ.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow, you've really shown yourself for a deceiver   
   > now!   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show us where it is written that Mark was a   
   > disciple.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apostles are special witnesses of Jesus Christ   
   > because   
   > > > >  they   
   > > > >  never   
   > > > > > > > > > >  saw   
   > > > > > > > > > >  him?!   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your answer is totally inept.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MrD   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthew, John, and Peter were apostles who were   
   with   
   > >  Jesus   
   > >  Christ   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > during his ministry.  Mark was a disciple who was   
   > with   
   > >  Jesus   
   > >  Christ   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > during his ministry and is said to be the disciple   
   > who   
   > >  ran   
   > >  away   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naked   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when his clothing was torn off at the time Jesus   
   > Christ   
   > >  was   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arrested.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > James was the brother of Jesus Christ and was   
   > called to   
   > >  be   
   > >  an   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > apostle   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after the crucifixion.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to see some support for these statements. I   
   > also   
   > >  require   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > that   
   > >  you   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > can show me that the Gospels were written by who you   
   > state   
   > >  they   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > were   
   > >  written   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > by.  Start with Mark. Show where he is a disciple and   
   > >  that it   
   > >  was   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > this   
   > >  same   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > disciple that wrote the book of Mark.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are truthful in what you say, you will be able   
   > to   
   > >  do   
   > > > >  these   
   > > > >  things.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > MrD   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I am going to require the same thing from you.   
   > Show   
   > >  me   
   > >  that   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > you   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > were the one who actually wrote this post in   
   > alt.abortion.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Another desperate attempt by you, the deceiver.  I take   
   > it you   
   > > > > > > > > > > > can't   
   > > > > > > > > > > > show   
   > > > > > > > > > > > me   
   > > > > > > > > > > > these things that you state.  Instead you try to dodge by   
   > > > > > > > > > > > equivocating   
   > > > > > > > > > > > that   
   > > > > > > > > > > > I can't show you that I was the one that posted the   
   > message.   
   > >  All   
   > > > > > > > > > > > you   
   > > > > > > > > > > > have   
   > > > > > > > > > > > to do is show all headers in your newsreader and the   
   > posting   
   > >  id   
   > > > > > > > > > > > will   
   > > > > > > > > > > > show   
   > > > > > > > > > > > that it is me.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > There, I've shown you and you've shown everyone else you   
   > are a   
   > > > > > > > > > > > coward   
      
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