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   From: askme@netins.net   
      
   "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
   news:7943568.0403060654.40abd72f@posting.google.com...   
   > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message   
   news:...   
   > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message   
   news:<7943568.0403042051.4f138a97@   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > I am not going anywhere.  I am staying right here.   
   > > > > > > > > > Robert b. Winn   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > You run away from the debate.  You refuse to back up your   
   statements   
   > > > > > > > > with objective facts, and you ignore facts that contradict   
   your   
   > > > > > > > > opinions and stance.  You call people names, usually very   
   insulting   
   > > > > > > > > names like adulterer, murderer, and child killer, but you   
   refuse to   
   > > > > > > > > back up these accusations with real evidence.  You throw out   
   Biblical   
   > > > > > > > > verses and odd statements willy-nilly, and hope that people   
   will not   
   > > > > > > > > notice that you failed to address any questions posed to   
   you,   
   > > > > > > > > including requests to support your own position with   
   something   
   > > > > > > > > stronger than your opinion and your religion.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > That is what is meant when people say that you are running   
   away.   
   > > > > > > > > Which you do very consistantly.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Mark Sebree   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > You told me yourself that you are an adulterer.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > No, I have not.  That is your accusation, and you have   
   completely   
   > > > > > > failed to back it up with real, secular evidence.  Your   
   religious   
   > > > > > > beliefs have no place in the accusation or the proof.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > >  I am not just going   
   > > > > > > > by the fact that you denied God and said you wanted to see a   
   sign.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > That does not make me an adulterer.  If I was of your religion,   
   which   
   > > > > > > I am not, that might make me a heretic, but it would not make me   
   an   
   > > > > > > adulterer.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Your religion cannot be used in your proof that I am an   
   adulterer,   
   > > > > > > since that is a secular accusation, and I am not a follower of   
   your   
   > > > > > > religious beliefs.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > You gave me a little lecture about how you practice "safe   
   sex", which   
   > > > > > > > was nothing more than a desacription of adultery.   
   > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Wrong again.  Safe sex has nothing to do with adultery.  Safe   
   sex has   
   > > > > > > to do with two consenting adults having sex and trying to avoid   
   > > > > > > pregnancy and catching any STDs the other might be carrying,   
   > > > > > > especially unknown STDs.  There is nothing inherrently wrong   
   with   
   > > > > > > consenting adults having sex, whether they are married or not.   
   And   
   > > > > > > since adultery cannot exist unless one of the parties involved   
   is   
   > > > > > > married, the vast majority consentual sex has nothing to do with   
   > > > > > > adultery.  Your personal opinions on the issue have no bearing   
   on the   
   > > > > > > actions and beliefs of others, and do not change the secular,   
   and only   
   > > > > > > pertainent, meaning of the word "adultery".   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Mark Sebree   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Well, I go by the definition of adultery given by Jesus Christ in   
   the   
   > > > > > New Testament.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Which is completely irrelevant to anyone that does not subscribe to   
   > > > > your religion or your opinion about your religion.  Something that   
   you   
   > > > > cannot seem to grasp.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > >  You seem to disagree with Jesus Christ.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Jesus Christ has not said anything is this thread.  Therefore, I am   
   > > > > not disagreeing with him, I am disagreeing with you.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > If Jesus wants to disagree with me, he can write for himself.   
   > > > > However, that is unlikely, since he has been dead for almost 2000   
   > > > > years.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > >  Who should I   
   > > > > > believe, you or Jesus Christ?  Let me see.  I think I will believe   
   > > > > > Jesus Christ.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > So, you will continue to believe your lies rather that the facts.   
   No   
   > > > > surprise there.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > You have not shown any objective evidence that your definition of   
   > > > > > adultery is true, consenting adults or not.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Actually, I have proven it to be true.  Here it is again.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > from Merriam-Webster online:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > : voluntary sexual intercourse between a married man and someone   
   other   
   > > > > than his wife or between a married woman and someone other than her   
   > > > > husband   
   > > > >   
   > > > > From Indiana law code, with respect to making false accusations of   
   > > > > adultery:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > IC 34-15-5-1   
   > > > > Actionable charges   
   > > > > Sec. 1. Every charge of incest, homosexuality, bestiality,   
   > > > > fornication, adultery, or whoredom falsely made against any person   
   is   
   > > > > actionable in the same manner as in the case of slanderous words   
   > > > > charging a felony.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Another usage of adultery in Indiana Law that has no bearing on   
   > > > > religion, but uses the definition that I and everyone except you   
   use,   
   > > > > with no apparent relationship to your religious beliefs:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > IC 29-1-2-14   
   > > > > Adultery; forfeiture of rights   
   > > > > Sec. 14. If either a husband or wife shall have left the other and   
   > > > > shall be living at the time of his or her death in adultery, he or   
   she   
   > > > > as the case may be shall take no part of the estate of the deceased   
   > > > > husband or wife.   
   > > > > (Formerly: Acts 1953, c.112, s.214.)   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Interestingly enough, while a false accusation of adultery, is a   
   > > > > criminal offense, adultery itself is not a crime.   
   > > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > >  In fact, there is no way it could be true.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > And yet, it is true.  Your delusions have no effect on the truth.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > >  Jesus Christ already said it was not.   
   > > > > > Robert B. winn   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Sorry, but again you have lied, and your lies have been revealed.   
   And   
   > > > > Jesus's opinion, or rather your opinion which you claim is Jesus's,   
   > > > > has no relevance in the real, secular world.  Adultery is defined   
   > > > > quite clearly in the dictionary, the same one that you love so much,   
   > > > > and that definition has nothing to do with your religion.   
   > > >   
   > > > I would encourage you in every way to seek redress under the statute   
   > > > you listed.   
   > >   
   > > It is better for the pro-choice advocates to let you continue to   
   > > continue to spout your nonsense and your oppressive agenda.  With you   
   > > highlighting the oppressiveness of your agenda, it greatly helps to   
   > > ensure that it will never happen.   
      
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