XPost: alt.abortion, alt.abortion.inequity, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.support.abortion, talk.abortion, us.issues.abortion   
   From: fnord2k@yahoo.com   
      
   In article <7943568.0403060713.77ac7581@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   Winn  wrote:   
      
   > William Klee  wrote in message   
   > news:<040320042356326432%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > In article <7943568.0403041603.65dcd007@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   > > Winn  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > William Klee  wrote in message   
   > > > news:<030320041847117368%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > In article <7943568.0403031406.5f6a3540@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   > > > > Winn  wrote:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > William Klee  wrote in message   
   > > > > > news:<030320040942020012%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > > > In article <7943568.0403021653.78c186e2@posting.google.com>, Robert   
   > > > > > > B.   
   > > > > > > Winn  wrote:   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > news:...   
   > > > > > > > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > > news:<7943568.0403011903.49907f82@posting.google.com>...   
   > > > > > > > > > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > > > news:...   
   > > > > > > > > > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > > > > news:<7943568.0402291652.3f03b525@posting.google.com>...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > > > > > news:...   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > [snip for brevity]   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > I have been here at my welding shop the entire time.    
   Your   
   > > > > > > > > > > > imagination   
   > > > > > > > > > > > seems to be a little overactive.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > MY imagination?!?  You that one that thinks tou opinions   
   > should   
   > > > > > > > > > > dictate the actions of other, your opinions on morality   
   > have any   
   > > > > > > > > > > basis   
   > > > > > > > > > > in reality, that mythological beings actually exist, and   
   > that   
   > >  others   
   > > > > > > > > > > should accept your religion as fact.  Your the one that is   
   > >  showing   
   > > > > > > > > > > an   
   > > > > > > > > > > overactive imagination.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > >  My suggestion about the rest of your   
   > > > > > > > > > > > statements would be that you wait until Jesus Christ   
   > returns   
   > >  and   
   > > > > > > > > > > > tell   
   > > > > > > > > > > > him your ideas.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > So, you toss out another diversionary tactic and run away   
   > >  again.   
   > > > > > > > > > > You   
   > > > > > > > > > > have no means to back up your claims, so you tell people to   
   > way   
   > > > > > > > > > > forever for the return of a dead guy, so you don't have to   
   > >  support   
   > > > > > > > > > > your oppressive agenda.  And then you wonder why people   
   > think   
   > >  you   
   > > > > > > > > > > are   
   > > > > > > > > > > nuts.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > If you want to keep running away, then do so.  The only one   
   > you   
   > >  hurt   
   > > > > > > > > > > by doing that is yourself, and you help whomever you are   
   > running   
   > > > > > > > > > > away   
   > > > > > > > > > > from, because you show that you cannot support your own   
   > >  position.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Mark Sebree   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > I am right here, Mark.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > 1500 miles away.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > >  When are you going to bring the child you were   
   > > > > > > > > > going to let live?   
   > > > > > > > > > Robert b. Winn   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > First, it is not my decision to make, it is the woman's.  (not   
   > that   
   > > > > > > > > your statement really makes that much sense.)   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > And second, you are the last person I would trust to raise a   
   > child.   
   > > > > > > > > I   
   > > > > > > > > would want to child grow up to be loving, trusting,   
   intelligent,   
   > > > > > > > > educated, literate, articulate, tolerant, well rounded, and   
   > desire   
   > > > > > > > > to   
   > > > > > > > > care for the thoughts, feelings, and well being of other.   
   > > > > > > > > Basically,   
   > > > > > > > > I would want the child to grow up to be the opposite of you.  I   
   > > > > > > > > would   
   > > > > > > > > also want the child to live in the real world, not the fantasy   
   > realm   
   > > > > > > > > that you seem to inhabit.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Mark Sebree   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > The world I live in has this definition in the dictionary:   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > And the world you live in also has a bible that says slavery is   
   > > > > > > good,   
   > > > > > > genocide is good and that rape victims should be sold to the rapist   
   > > > > > > under certain circumstances.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > The world I live in is the one where you are trying to promote   
   > > > > > adultery   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Another Robert B. Winn Lie (tm). You can not show this to be true, for   
   > > > > the simple fact that I do not promote adultry.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > and abortion.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > And another Robert B. Winn Lie (tm). You can not show this to be true,   
   > > > > either, for the simple fact that I do not promote abortion the way you   
   > > > > claim. *No-one* promotes abortion the way you claim. Your master,   
   > > > > satan, must be *so* proud of you and your lies.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > And the point you ignored, as you so often do: The world you live in   
   > > > > also has a bible that says slavery is good, genocide is good and that   
   > > > > rape victims should be sold to the rapist under certain circumstances.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I don't blame you for trying to avoid this. If *I* believed in such   
   > > > > evil, I wouldn't be admitting it either.   
   > > >   
   > > > Your interpretation means nothing to me.  Go sell your interpretation   
   > > > of the Bible somewhere else.   
   > >   
   > > What interpretation? How would *you* interpert the following:   
   > >   
   > > God orders the death of all men, women and children of three groups of   
   > > people: the Amelekites, the Midianites and the Caananites. What is this   
   > > if not genocide?   
      
   So genocide is OK with you.   
      
   > > This bible of yours gives laws governing conduct toward slaves. There   
   > > is not one word condemning slavery. What is this if not a belief that   
   > > slavery is a normal and good part of life?   
      
   And slavery is OK with you.   
      
   > > Under certain circumstances, the bible commands that if a woman is   
   > > raped, she has to marry the rapist, who in turn has to give her father   
   > > 50 shekels of silver (about 20 ounces). What is this if not selling   
   > > damaged goods?   
   >   
   > I would interpret it to be a pro-abortion interpretation of some   
   > passages from the Law of Moses in the Old Testament.   
      
      
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