XPost: alt.abortion, alt.abortion.inequity, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.support.abortion, talk.abortion, us.issues.abortion   
   From: fnordy2k@yahoo.com   
      
   In article <7943568.0404031949.21b895fa@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   Winn wrote:   
      
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   > > >>>>Robert B. Winn wrote:   
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   > > >>>>>>Robert B. Winn wrote:   
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   > > >>>>>>>>>Robert B. Winn wrote:   
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   > > >>>>>>>>>>>"Robert B. Winn" wrote in message   
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   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>"--sexkitten--" wrote in   
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   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Robert B. Winn wrote:   
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   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, what about the opinion of Merriam-Webster   
   > dictionary?   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>child n. 1. an unborn or recently born person   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Robert b. Winn   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
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   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thus making your average infant an adult.   
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   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Only to pro-abortion people. Normal people can tell what   
   > a child   
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   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Robert B. Winn   
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   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, they can. A person between birth and puberty, like the   
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   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>say.   
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   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>child n. 1. an unborn or recently born person   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Merriam-Webster dictionary.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Robert B. Winn   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>What's the Merriam-Webster dictionary definition of   
   > 'adulterer'?   
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   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>I don't know. Probably something Mark Seebree would like. The   
   > only   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>definition of adulterer I use is the one Jesus Christ gave.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>Robert B. Winn   
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   > > >>>>>>>>>>>So Merriam-Webster definitions are OK when they say what you   
   > want   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>them to   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>say, but to be ignored when they don't, right? Did Jesus ever   
   > define   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>'child' as being unborn?   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>   
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   > > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>Lots of times. Read the first verses of Jeremiah chapter 1.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>Robert B. Winn   
   > > >>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>Jesus did not write Jeremiah. The only direct quotes attributed to   
   > > >>>>>>>>>Jesus   
   > > >>>>>>>>>were in the first 4 books of the OT (and one I think in Acts).   
   > > >>>>>>>>>Besides,   
   > > >>>>>>>>>you claimed the OT was no longer valid, so it's definitions no   
   > > >>>>>>>>>longer   
   > > >>>>>>>>>apply. Please provide a quote from the first 4 books of the NT.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>Being that I'm speaking to you, I'd better make that clearer.   
   > > >>>>>>>>Please   
   > > >>>>>>>>provide a quote from the first 4 books of the NT *specifically   
   > > >>>>>>>>attributed to Jesus*, in other words, something that he said   
   > > >>>>>>>>defining child.   
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   > > >>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>Matthew 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in   
   > > >>>>>>>Heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.   
   > > >>>>>>>Robert B. Winn   
   > > >>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>I don't see the word abortion in there, and anyhow how is it possible   
   > > >>>>>>to   
   > > >>>>>>go against the will of god? Isn't he all knowing and all powerful?   
   > > >>>>>   
   > > >>>>>   
   > > >>>>>Well, if you think satan is doing the will of God, then you are   
   > > >>>>>probably going to follow satan.   
   > > >>>>>Robert B. winn   
   > > >>>>   
   > > >>>>...how is it possible to go against the will of god? Isn't he all   
   > > >>>>knowing and all powerful?   
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   > > >>>   
   > > >>>Well, for instance, God said, Thou shalt not kill.   
   > > >>   
   > > >>No, he didn't. In fact he said "Kill" a lot.   
   > > >>   
   > > >> But today the   
   > > >>   
   > > >>>majority of people see nothing wrong with killing an unborn child.   
   > > >>>God knows the children were killed.   
   > > >>   
   > > >>...how is it possible to go against the will of god? Isn't he all   
   > > >>knowing and all powerful?   
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   > > >>   
   > > >>>Robert B. winn   
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   > > > Well, for instance, killing unborn children goes against the will of God.   
   > > > Robert B. Winn   
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   > > But killing born infants isn't... he was very specific about that... so   
   > > what you are saying is that we should kill them AFTER birth instead?   
   >   
   > You should not kill them at all.   
      
   You'll have to take that up with god, since he says differently.   
      
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