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   MrD to Robert B. Winn   
   Re: immoral people (1/2)   
   25 Apr 04 21:15:22   
   
   XPost: alt.abortion, alt.abortion.inequity, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.support.abortion, talk.abortion   
   From: nachobiznez@all.com   
      
   "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
   news:7943568.0404251634.82b92b2@posting.google.com...   
   > "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   news:...   
   > > Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > > > "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > > news:...   
   > > >> Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > > >>> "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > >>> news:...   
   > > >>>> Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > > >>>>> "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > >>>>> news:...   
   > > >>>>>> Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > >   
   > > >>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>> Prove that you would know what satan would have said.   
   > > >>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>> You're a lying coward Winn who believes in imaginary   
   > > >>>>>>>> pre-babylonian fertility gods.   
   > > >>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>> I believe in Jesus Christ.   
   > > >>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>> Exactly.  Which you are more than welcomed to do, as long as   
   > > >>>>>> you're not bothering other people with it.   
   > > >>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>> I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize.   
   > > >>>>>> Steven Wright   
   > > >>>>>   
   > > >>>>> Why would it bother you if someone else believes in Jesus Christ?   
   > > >>>>> Robert b. winn   
   > > >>>>   
   > > >>>> Are you that dense?   It doesn't, unless they are coming to my door   
   > > >>>> at six in the morning to "witness" to me.  I actually had to point   
   > > >>>> a gun in a Pastor's face one time to make sure he got the message   
   > > >>>> that he was not wanted here, that was after having told him on four   
   > > >>>> consectutive weekends to stay away from my house.  Luckily, he   
   > > >>>> finally got the message because had he come back again, I would   
   > > >>>> have had to knee cap the idiot.   We had a similar problem with   
   > > >>>> the JW's and the Mormons about 10 years ago.    Man where they   
   > > >>>> pests!  The community had to finally get together and get a court   
   > > >>>> order against them, then we passed a local ordinance that no   
   > > >>>> door-to-door witnessing was allowed before 10 AM nor after 9 PM.   
   > > >>>> The JW's started hanging around parking lots, like the mall and   
   > > >>>> K-Marts and what have you trying to witness to people.   They   
   > > >>>> would just jump out and get in front of you and start babbling.   
   > > >>>> I had this happen to my wife and I once.   We walked around him   
   > > >>>> the first time, but then he ran around and jumped in front of us   
   > > >>>> again!   Just about the time I was getting mad enough to do   
   > > >>>> something nasty, a police officer stepped up and asked us if the   
   > > >>>> man was bothering us. We said yes, so the man got to spend the   
   > > >>>> next 48 hours in the local lock-up.   
   > > >>>>   
   > > >>>> So, that's how people that believe in Jesus Christ have bothered   
   > > >>>> me.   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>> Did you know that the Supreme Court ruled against your local   
   > > >>> ordinance?   
   > > >>   
   > > >> Nope, we checked that out legally.  Our community has the right to   
   > > >> set certain standards where such things are concerned.   
   > > >>   
   > > >>> I know how important to you it is to follow whatever the   
   > > >>> Supreme Court says.  Watchtower Society v. some city in New York.   
   > > >>> You seem a little overwrought about people knocking on your door.   
   > > >>> Are you doing something that you do not want anyone to know about?   
   > > >>   
   > > >> Nothing, I simply like to sleep past 6:00 AM on Saturday and Sunday   
   > > >> morning.   
   > > >>   
   > > >>   
   > > >>> What is in your house, illegal drugs?   
   > > >>   
   > > >> Sleeping retired couple.   
   > > >>   
   > > >>> You seem like you are trying to prove something with your gun.   
   > > >>   
   > > >> Yeah, that I'll knee cap the asshole if he wakes me up again after   
   > > >> having told the idiot several times that I don't appreciate it.   
   > > >>   
   > > >>> Why   
   > > >>> didn't you call the police?   
   > > >>   
   > > >> I did!   The people in the community did on NUMEROUS occastion.   
   > > >> Unfortunately, the fat chief of police at that time was a JW.  Which   
   > > >> is why we had to take legal action.   
   > > >>   
   > > >>>   At any rate, here in the United States, Jehovah Witnesses and   
   > > >>> other religions are allowed to go door to door.   
   > > >>   
   > > >> Only during certain, reasonable hours in my community.   
   > > >>   
   > > >>> If you do not put up a sign   
   > > >>> forbidding them to knock on your door, they are free to do it.  Free   
   > > >>> exercise of religion.   
   > > >>   
   > > >> So, if I start a religion that believes in say...  ritual   
   > > >> kidnappings, or something equally as ridiculous, that is all good?   
   > > >> Even the freedom of religion has certain exclusions.   
   > > >>   
   > > >>> It is not unlawful to knock on a door just   
   > > >>> because you belong to a religion.   
   > > >>   
   > > >> Actually, it is if you've already been told NOT to knock on a   
   > > >> particular door.  It's called trespass.   
   > > >>   
   > > >>> Sorry you don't like freedom of   
   > > >>> religion.   
   > > >>   
   > > >> Your freedom of religion is not allowed to infringe on my right to   
   > > >> quiet enjoyment of my domicile.  That is what the judges ruled.   
   > > >   
   > > > I do not believe your story.   
   > >   
   > > Who cares what you believe.   
   > >   
   > >  Even if the chief of police was a fat   
   > > > Jehovah's Witness, you could have gone to court and for $5.00 obtained   
   > > > a restraining order,   
   > >   
   > > That's what we did initially, however the judge could only grant such an   
   > > order for 90 days at a time, which meant we needed a more permanent   
   > > solution.   
   > >   
   > > > and then if this person knocked on your door, you   
   > > > could have had him put in jail.  Instead, you pull out a gun.   
   > >   
   > > It did a better job.   
   > >   
   > > >  It   
   > > > seems to me that as a pro-abortion homicidal maniac, you are trying to   
   > > > establish a precedent for killing known Christian proselyters.   
   > >   
   > > Oh no, I wouldn't have killed him, he'd have just walked funny for the   
   rest   
   > > of his life.   
   > >   
   > > > There   
   > > > were no judges involved because you did not obtain a restraining   
   > > > order.   
   > >   
   > > Yes, we did.  But who enforces the restraining order?  The police, and   
   the   
   > > police was ignoring it.   
   > >   
   > > > You are just blowing atheistic smoke.  Secondly, your city   
   > > > does not have authority to say that 10:00 A.M. is not a reasonable   
   > > > hour.   
   > >   
   > > Of course the city does, under the authority of the people it governs.   
   You   
   > > do like democracy, right?  Or is Theocracy more your speed?   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > > If you want to sleep all day, put a do not disturb sign on your   
   > > > door.   
   > >   
   > > Tried that, didn't work.   
   > >   
   > > > Your theory is that if you tell one Jehovah Witness not to come to   
   > > > your house, you have told all Jehovah Witnesses.   
   > >   
      
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