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   MrD to Robert B. Winn   
   Re: immoral people   
   26 Apr 04 06:51:50   
   
   XPost: alt.abortion, alt.abortion.inequity, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.support.abortion, talk.abortion   
   From: nachobiznez@all.com   
      
   "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
   news:7943568.0404252135.de5a6ef@posting.google.com...   
   > "MrD"  wrote in message   
   news:...   
   > > "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > news:zjPic.1685$g31.913@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...   
   > > > Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > > > > "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > > > news:<2IFic.516$g31.124@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...   
   > > > >> Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > > > >>> "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > > >>> news:...   
   > > > >>>> Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > > > >>>>> "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > > >>>>> news:<3g6ic.7237$gH6.5061@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...   
   > > > >>>>>> Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > >>>>>>>     In 1973 I understood better what they were doing.  That   
   was   
   > > > >>>>>>> when the United States government was declared to be a   
   > > > >>>>>>> pro-abortion police state.   
   > > > >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn   
   > > > >>>>>>   
   > > > >>>>>> Do you have some cheese to go with that whine?   You are always   
   > > > >>>>>> welcome to move to some of the fine theocratic countries that   
   are   
   > > > >>>>>> left in the world where they still treat their women like   
   slaves.   
   > > > >>>>>> Iran, Saudi Arabia.  I'll help you pack!   
   > > > >>>>>   
   > > > >>>>> You are the people who treat women like slaves.   
   > > > >>>>   
   > > > >>>> Nonsense.   
   > > > >>>>   
   > > > >>>>> In your minds they   
   > > > >>>>> exist for immoral purposes.   
   > > > >>>>   
   > > > >>>> No moron, they exist for the purpose that they define for   
   > > > >>>> themselves.   
   > > > >>>>   
   > > > >>>>   
   > > > >>>>> If your immorality results in pregnancy,   
   > > > >>>>> you kill the child.   
   > > > >>>>   
   > > > >>>> My morality?   I'm 58 years old, raised four children, two boys   
   who   
   > > > >>>> are my biological children, my Nephew after my brother died in   
   > > > >>>> Vietnam, and a daughter that my wife and I adopted because she   
   > > > >>>> couldn't have anymore children and she wanted a daughter.    I've   
   > > > >>>> never had any out of wedlock or unwanted children.   You know   
   > > > >>>> NOTHING of my morality, liar Robert, and I've most certainly   
   never   
   > > > >>>> killed a child, unlike the proponents of your religion.   
   > > > >>>   
   > > > >>> So you are saying that these abortion doctors would do what they   
   are   
   > > > >>> doing without your support and encouragement.   
   > > > >>   
   > > > >> No liar Robert, I neither support nor encourage them.  Niether do I   
   > > > >> discourage or detract from them.  It is simply none of my business   
   > > > >> what women CHOOSE to do with their pregnancies.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Well, it seems to me that the same would be true of people who   
   CHOOSE   
   > > > > not to participate in immorality and homicides of children.  It is   
   > > > > simply none of your business what they CHOOSE to do.  So we can   
   expect   
   > > > > that you will stop trying to detract from what pro-life people say   
   in   
   > > > > this newsgroup.   
   > > >   
   > > > As long as they say that what women choose to do is none of their   
   buisness   
   > > > as well.  Otherwise I can debate the point as I wish.   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > >>> That is like saying   
   > > > >>> that the people who were concentration camp guards during World   
   War   
   > > > >>> II would have killed six million Jews if there had been no Nazi   
   > > > >>> party.   
   > > > >>   
   > > > >> I don't belong to the Nazi party either, liar Robert.   
   > > > > Well, obviously, the Nazis seem a little inept compared to your   
   > > > > killing machine.   
   > > >   
   > > > I have no killing maching, Liar Robert.   
   > > >   
   > > > [snip rest of stupidity]   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > >>>   I know you are pro-abortion.  What else do you think I need to   
   > > > >>> know   
   > > > >>   
   > > > >> I am pro-mind my own business and let other people make their   
   > > > >> choices.   
   > >   
   > > > > These little tiny unborn children seem to be trying to choose to   
   stay   
   > > > > alive.  How did they get left out of your morality?   
   > > >   
   > > > They don't have the same rights as the mother.  It's sort of like   
   living   
   > >  in   
   > > > an apartment or border house.  You can't make the same decisions as   
   the   
   > > > landlord.   
   > >   
   > > Not to actually argue, but even that analogy is overstated.  At the   
   stage of   
   > > development that fetuses are routinely aborted, the analogy would be   
   more   
   > > inline with the mice don't have any say in the decisions about the   
   apartment   
   > > building.  At first I was thinking the mildew in the shower, but some   
   whack   
   > > would start in with the beating heart crap, so I cut the chase.   
   > > Personally, I don't like the idea of late-term abortion.  Early-term, I   
   > > don't see any reason to even bring morality into play, the fetus is no   
   more   
   > > than an unknowning growth and doesn't have any claim on human rights.   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > >>   
   > > > >>> about you?   
   > > > >>   
   > > > >> More than you are ever likely to develop the mentality to   
   understand.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Well, I think pro-abortion pretty much says everything about you.   
   > > >   
   > > > Nothing you will ever understand.   
   > > >   
   > Well, in the movie by Alfred Hitchcock, Norman Bates believed that the   
   > human tissue that checked into his motel should be killed.  Was that   
   > what you meant by your reference to mildew in the shower?   
   > But remember, at the end of the movie, Norman Bates lets the fly live.   
   >  I think that was very significant and showed that even though he did   
   > terrible things, he did have a compassionate side to his personality.   
      
   That movie wasn't real, Winn.  It doesn't justify your penchant for doing   
   terrible things.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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