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   MrD to Robert B. Winn   
   Re: immoral people (1/2)   
   28 Apr 04 23:41:44   
   
   XPost: alt.abortion, alt.abortion.inequity, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.support.abortion, talk.abortion   
   From: nachobiznez@all.com   
      
   "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
   news:7943568.0404282025.5ec64721@posting.google.com...   
   > "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   news:...   
   > > MrD wrote:   
   > > > "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
   > > > news:7943568.0404272132.3c7b4024@posting.google.com...   
   > > >> "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > >  news:...   
   > > >>> Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > > >>>> "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > >>>> news:...   
   > > >>>>> Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > > >>>>>> "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > >>>>>> news:<%I6jc.3078$g31.45@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...   
   > > >>>>>>> MrD wrote:   
   > > >>>>>>>> "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
   > > >>>>>>>> news:7943568.0404252135.de5a6ef@posting.google.com...   
   > > >>>>>>>>> "MrD"  wrote in message   
   > >  news:...   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> news:zjPic.1685$g31.913@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   news:<2IFic.516$g31.124@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >  news:...   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Light Templar"  wrote in   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >  news:<3g6ic.7237$gH6.5061@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > >   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     In 1973 I understood better what they were doing.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was when the United States government was   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> declared to be a pro-abortion police state.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have some cheese to go with that whine?   You   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are always welcome to move to some of the fine   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theocratic countries that are left in the world where   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they still treat their women like slaves. Iran, Saudi   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arabia.  I'll help you pack!   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are the people who treat women like slaves.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In your minds they   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exist for immoral purposes.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No moron, they exist for the purpose that they define   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for themselves.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If your immorality results in pregnancy,   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you kill the child.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My morality?   I'm 58 years old, raised four children,   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two boys who are my biological children, my Nephew   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after my brother died in Vietnam, and a daughter that   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my wife and I adopted because she couldn't have anymore   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> children and she wanted a daughter.    I've never had   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any out of wedlock or unwanted children.   You know   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOTHING of my morality, liar Robert, and I've most   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly never killed a child, unlike the proponents   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of your religion.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you are saying that these abortion doctors would do   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what they are doing without your support and   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> encouragement.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No liar Robert, I neither support nor encourage them.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Niether do I discourage or detract from them.  It is   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> simply none of my business what women CHOOSE to do with   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> their pregnancies.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, it seems to me that the same would be true of people   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> who CHOOSE not to participate in immorality and homicides   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of children.  It is simply none of your business what they   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> CHOOSE to do.  So we can expect that you will stop trying   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to detract from what pro-life people say in this newsgroup.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> As long as they say that what women choose to do is none of   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> their buisness as well.  Otherwise I can debate the point   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> as I wish.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is like saying   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the people who were concentration camp guards during   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> World War II would have killed six million Jews if there   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> had been no Nazi party.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't belong to the Nazi party either, liar Robert.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, obviously, the Nazis seem a little inept compared to   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> your killing machine.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> I have no killing maching, Liar Robert.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> [snip rest of stupidity]   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I know you are pro-abortion.  What else do you think I   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to know   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am pro-mind my own business and let other people make   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> their choices.   
   > >   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> These little tiny unborn children seem to be trying to   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> choose to stay alive.  How did they get left out of your   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> morality?   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> They don't have the same rights as the mother.  It's sort of   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> like living  in an apartment or border house.  You can't   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> make the same decisions as the landlord.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> Not to actually argue, but even that analogy is overstated.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> At the stage of development that fetuses are routinely   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> aborted, the analogy would be more inline with the mice   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> don't have any say in the decisions about the apartment   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> building.  At first I was thinking the mildew in the shower,   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> but some whack would start in with the beating heart crap,   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> so I cut the chase. Personally, I don't like the idea of   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> late-term abortion.  Early-term, I don't see any reason to   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> even bring morality into play, the fetus is no more than an   
      
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