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   MrD to Robert B. Winn   
   Re: immoral Robert B. Winn (1/2)   
   09 May 04 19:13:24   
   
   XPost: alt.abortion, alt.abortion.inequity, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.support.abortion, talk.abortion   
   From: nachobiznez@all.com   
      
   "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
   news:7943568.0405091527.55cbb686@posting.google.com...   
   > "MrD"  wrote in message   
   news:...   
   > > "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
   > > news:7943568.0405081736.7912beea@posting.google.com...   
   > > > "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > >  news:...   
   > > > > MrD wrote:   
   > > > > > "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > > > > news:Az4nc.1942$KE6.943@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...   
   > > > > >> Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > > > > >>> "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > > > >>> news:...   
   > > > > >>>> MrD wrote:   
   > > > > >>>>> "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
   > > > > >>>>> news:7943568.0405071604.609f11d7@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > >>>>>> "MrD"  wrote in message   
   > >  news:...   
   > > > > >>>>>>> "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
   > > > > >>>>>>> news:7943568.0405070502.3e25fb64@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > >>>>>>>> "MrD"  wrote in message   
   > >  news:...   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>> "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in   
   message   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>> news:7943568.0405060557.45968ea2@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>> "MrD"  wrote in message   
   > >  news:...   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in   
   message   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> news:7943568.0405050549.36a6245e@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "MrD"  wrote in message   
   > >  news:...   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> message   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:7943568.0405021738.792d59ff@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MrD"  wrote in message   
   > >  news:...   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   news:7943568.0405011701.37e56dcc@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MrD"  wrote in message   
   > >  news:...   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Robert B. Winn"  wrote   
   in   
   > >  message   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >  news:7943568.0404300507.38db1371@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MrD"  wrote in message   
   > >  news:...   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Light Templar"  wrote in   
   > >  message   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:LLjkc.7769$g31.2412@newsread2.news.a   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently you kept enough for an internet   
   > >  connection.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, my business partner has the internet   
   > >  connection.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure he does.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't recall Jesus saying 'give your cash to   
   > > > > >>>>  the   
   > > > > >>>>  poor   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>  and   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>  keep   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  your   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  other   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things'.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus said 'sell your possessions, give the   
   > > > > >>>>  proceeds   
   > > > > >>>>  to   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>  the   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>  poor,   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  then   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  come   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and follow me.'   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would it matter to you what Jesus said?  You   
   > > > > >>>>  claim   
   > > > > >>>>  that   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>  you do   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>  not   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in Jesus.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It matters to me because it serves to point out   
   your   
   > >  hypocrisy   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>  in   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>  judging   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You stated that you follow Jesus' teachings.   
   > >  Whether   
   > > > > >>>>>>>  Jesus   
   > > > > >>>>>>>  exists   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>  or   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>  not,   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his 'teachings' are available in the form of the   
   > > > > >>>>  Bible.   
   > > > > >>>>  I   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>  have   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>  read   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>  it   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>  and   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know that you aren't following Jesus' teachings,   
   yet   
   > > > > >>>>  you   
   > > > > >>>>  seem to   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>  think   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>  that   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are a deceiver if you state that you follow   
   > > > > >>>>  Jesus'   
   > > > > >>>>  teachings   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>  and   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>  then   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't do so.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's you.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you seem to be a modern day political   
   > >  correctness   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>  Pharisee.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>  The   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part of the Bible I like best is the part where   
   Jesus   
   > >  went   
   > > > > >>>>>>>  in   
   > > > > >>>>>>>  the   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temple and overturned the tables of the money   
   changers.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It figures you'd like your hero at his violent best.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was a sinful savior, wasn't he.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe that is an accusation you would like to express   
   in   
   > >  person to   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ when he returns to judge this earth.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes you think he will return?   He was a sinner   
   who   
   > >  lied   
   > > > > >>>>>>>  to   
   > > > > >>>>>>>  his   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> followers.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> What did he say that you think was a lie?   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> That he would be in the earth for three days.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> That he would return again within the same generation he   
   was   
   > >  addressing.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> That he was 'I am'.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> That the only way to the 'father' was through him.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I could go on and on.   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the better question would be to ask you what he   
   said   
   > >  that   
   > > > > >>>>>>>  was   
   > > > > >>>>>>>  true,   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and then have you show how it was true using objective   
   > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> evidence. I'm pretty sure you would flee from such a   
      
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