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   "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
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   > > > > "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
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   > > > > > > "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
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   > > > > > > > > "Robert B. Winn"  > > > > > > > > > myth.  These are built on evidence and not ego.  These   
   are   
   > >  built   
   > > > >  on   
   > > > >  truth   
   > > > > > > > > > > and not fear.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Well, if you are sincere in your desire to study the   
   > >  scriptures,   
   > >  we   
   > > > > > > > > > can study them.  Just say the word.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > You do not want to study the scriptures, you want to deny   
   > >  scripture.   
   > > > > > > > > You even said that some Gospels don't exist.  If you want to   
   > >  study   
   > >  them,   
   > > > > > > > > then go and read them.  It will be a first for you, I'm   
   sure.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > I read the scriptures all the time.  Right now I am reading   
   > >  Isaiah.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Like I said, you do not want to study the Gospels, you want to   
   deny   
   > >  they   
   > > > > > > exist.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Matthew, Mark, Luke , John.  No, they exist.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Like I said, you do not want to study the Gospels, you want to deny   
   that   
   > > > > some of them exist.  This sort of pick and choose religion is   
   > >  distasteful.   
   > > >   
   > > > Sorry, but studying pagan writings is not studying religion.  True   
   > > > religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, to visit the   
   > > > widow and the fatherless in their affliction and to keep yourselves   
   > > > unspotted from the world.   
   > >   
   > > Pagan is a religion.  'True religion' is an oxymoron.   
   > > 'To visit the widow and the fatherless in their affliction and to keep   
   > > yourselves unspotted from the world' could be a pagan mandate predating   
   your   
   > > religion's use of it.  Christianity stole heavily from the pagan beliefs   
   and   
   > > then turned on them, despising their fathers.   
   > > I'm afraid that your confidence in your beliefs is only caused by your   
   lack   
   > > of understanding of the religions that it was derived from.  There is   
   > > nothing unique or new in the Christian faith.  It is all just a rehash   
   of   
   > > someone else's religion.   
   > > It's only popular because it is one of the few religions where you are   
   > > encouraged to judge others and then hide behind your deity when people   
   call   
   > > your bluff.   
   > > If you were to follow this pattern, you'd ask me to take my complaint to   
   > > Jesus since you don't want to hear it.  Rather cowardly, wouldn't you   
   say?   
   >   
   > Yes, so why don't you take your complaint to someone you think is   
   courageous?   
      
   Because there is no one who will take it.  All believers seem to be unable   
   to handle the truth.  Just like you, they will lie, cheat, hide, and   
   threaten, but they will not discuss the truth.  It must be terribly   
   frustrating for them to realize their faith is baseless and have no recourse   
   but to exclaim, "Take your complaint to Jesus when he returns, I don't want   
   to hear it."   I have no reason to believe Jesus is coming back, and to be   
   honest, you don't either.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)