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   XPost: alt.support.abortion, talk.abortion   
   From: nachobiznez@all.com   
      
   "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
   news:7943568.0405231557.79fc5607@posting.google.com...   
   > "MrD"  wrote in message   
   news:...   
   > > "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
   > > news:7943568.0405230426.17a21c77@posting.google.com...   
   > > > "MrD"  wrote in message   
   > >  news:...   
   > > > > "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > > > news:iQNrc.18924$zO3.15967@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...   
   > > > > > While Robert B. Winn was contemplating his or her navel in   
   > > > > > news:7943568.0405221117.284e8687@posting.google.com,   
   > > > > >  he or she gave us all a good laugh with   
   the   
   > > > > > following...   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > > > > > news:...   
   > > > > > >> While Robert B. Winn was contemplating his or her navel in   
   > > > > > >> news:7943568.0405211611.267e732d@posting.google.com,   
   > > > > > >>  he or she gave us all a good laugh   
   with   
   > > > > > >> the following...   
   > > > > > >>   
   > > > > > >>> --sexkitten--  wrote in   
   message   
   > > > > > >>> news:<2h6vc1F9hjjlU1@uni-berlin.de>...   
   > > > > > >>>> Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > > > > > >>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>> "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > > > > >>>>>   
   news:...   
   > > > > > >>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>> While Robert B. Winn was contemplating his or her navel in   
   > > > > > >>>>>> news:7943568.0405201737.73d82f06@posting.google.com,   
   > > > > > >>>>>>  he or she gave us all a good   
   laugh   
   > > > > > >>>>>> with the following...   
   > > > > > >>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>> "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>   
   news:...   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>> While Robert B. Winn was contemplating his or her navel   
   in   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>> news:7943568.0405200932.175ac06b@posting.google.com,   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>  he or she gave us all a good   
   laugh   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>> with the following...   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>> "Light Templar"  wrote in message   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >  news:...   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> While Attila was contemplating his or her navel in   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> news:qf4oa0teh61q6fm2t8imvvoastafc38ufr@4ax.com,   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>  he or she gave us all a good laugh   
   > >  with   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the following...   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 19 May 2004 18:55:48 -0700,   
   rbwinn47@mybluelight.com   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> (Robert B. Winn) in alt.abortion with message-id   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> <7943568.0405191755.24a2f0fc@posting.google.com>   
   wrote:   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is it that you think I should be trying to   
   prove   
   > >  to   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself?   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The truth of your beliefs.   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I just find out what Jesus Christ taught with   
   > >  regard   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to any particular thing, and it is proven.   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> How do you know?   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> What he means is that he accepts dogma as fact and   
   can't   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> figure out for the life of  him why other people don't.   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>> If Jesus Christ said it, then it is true.   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>> Prove it.   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>  You were the one who was   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>> trying to prove Jesus Christ wrong.   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>> Nope, I'm trying to get you to prove the assertions you   
   make.   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>> If you can't prove them, then they have no credibility by   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>> default.   
   > > > > > >>>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>> Well, that is a problem when talking to pro-abortion   
   police   
   > > > > > >>>>>>> state advocates.  For instance, I could say,  The Bible   
   says   
   > > > > > >>>>>>> that the sun shines during the day.   
   > > > > > >>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>> And you can't figure out how to prove that the sun shines   
   > >  during   
   > > > > > >>>>>> the day? If you can't, that's pitiful.   
   > > > > > >>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>> The atheist would be compelled to try to prove that wrong   
   > > > > > >>>>>>> because it is in the Bible,   
   > > > > > >>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>> So you think that rabbits do chew their cud then?   
   > > > > > >>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>> just as they try to prove Hezekiah's tunnel does not   
   > > > > > >>>>>>> exist because its construction is described in the Bible.   
   So   
   > >  it   
   > > > > > >>>>>>> seems that the burden of proof is on the atheists.   
   > > > > > >>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>> Nope, you made the assertion that it's Hezekiah's tunnel,   
   and   
   > > > > > >>>>>> you've offered nothing but dogma as your argument.    Note   
   that   
   > >  I   
   > > > > > >>>>>> have never asserted that it isn't Hezekiah's, so I have yet   
   to   
   > > > > > >>>>>> have make any assertion that I need to prove.   I have   
   offered   
   > > > > > >>>>>> evidence that doesn't support your assertion that it is   
   > > > > > >>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel, but I've never said it wasn't Hezekiah's   
   > > > > > >>>>>> tunnel.   
   > > > > > >>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>> Your assertion, your burden of proof.   
   > > > > > >>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>>   
   > > > > > >>>>> I think we should wait for the resurrection and ask   
   Hezekiah.   
   > > > > > >>>>> Robert B. Winn   
   > > > > > >>>>   
   > > > > > >>>> Way to go Templar! Robert's been flattened again!   
   > > > > > >>>> (not that it's hard to do, just funny...)   
   > > > > > >>>>   
   > > > > > >>> Well, it seems to me that Hezekiah should be able to satisfy   
   your   
   > > > > > >>> minds about this.  I don't think anyone else will.   
   > > > > > >>   
   > > > > > >> I don't talk to dead people, and as long as you are making the   
   > > > > > >> assertions, then you will be the one held accountable for the   
   > >  proof.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Well, therein seems to lie your problem.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > I have no problem, you have no credibility.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > It seems like a strange   
   > > > > > > prejudice if you will not converse with a person just because   
   that   
   > > > > > > person has died and been resurrected.   
   > > > > >   
      
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