XPost: alt.abortion, alt.abortion.inequity, alt.atheism   
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   From: ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com   
      
   Robert B. Winn wrote:   
      
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   >>Robert B. Winn wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>--sexkitten-- wrote in   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, we have the commandments of God.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Robert B. Winn   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Which does not say a word about abortion. Neither do the   
   rather specific   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>biblical definitions of crime.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So where's the proof?   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thou shalt not kill.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Robert B. Winn   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Which does not say a word about abortion. Neither do the rather   
   specific   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>biblical definitions of crime.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>So try again. Show me a verse that SPECIFICALLY forbids   
   abortion. Not   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>just "Thou shalt not kill" which is a nonexistent verse. There   
   are   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>entire books and chapters giving SPECIFIC definitions of crime   
   and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>punishments- where is the one that SPECIFICALLY forbids abortion?   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Matthew 18:14 Even so, it is not the will of your Father in   
   Heaven,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>that one of these little ones should perish.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Robert B. winn   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>Abortion?   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>Even so, it is not the will of your Father in Heaven, that one of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>these little ones should perish.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>Robert B. Winn   
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   >>>>>>>>>>Isaiah 13:15-18 Anyone who is captured will be run through with a   
   sword.   
   >>>>>>>>>>Their little children will be dashed to death right before their   
   eyes.   
   >>>>>>>>>>Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking   
   >>>>>>>>>>hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount   
   of   
   >>>>>>>>>>silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot   
   down   
   >>>>>>>>>>the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless   
   >>>>>>>>>>babies and will show no compassion for the children.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>Exodus 12:29-30 And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn   
   sons   
   >>>>>>>>>>in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>>>throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the   
   >>>>>>>>>>firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials   
   and   
   >>>>>>>>>>all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing   
   was   
   >>>>>>>>>>heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house   
   where   
   >>>>>>>>>>someone had not died.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>Eze:9:6: Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children,   
   >>>>>>>>>>and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and   
   begin at   
   >>>>>>>>>>my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>>>house.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>You lose.   
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   >>>>>>>>>I agree with everything you quoted.   
   >>>>>>>>>Robert B. Winn   
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   >>>>>>>>Glad to hear it.   
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   >>>>>>>Isaiah described what the Medes would do to Babylonians, Moses   
   >>>>>>>described the deaths of the firstborn in Egypt, Ezekiel prophesied the   
   >>>>>>>fall of Jerusalem. All of these deaths could have been avoided if the   
   >>>>>>>people involved had repented of their sins.   
   >>>>>>>Robert B. winn   
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   >>>>>>All the children were killed because they were sinners?   
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   >>>>>The children were killed because their parents did not heed the   
   >>>>>warnings of the prophets.   
   >>>>>Robert B. Winn   
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   >>>>And this was the childrens fault because....?   
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   >>>It was not the fault of the children. It was the fault of their immoral   
   parents.   
   >>>Robert B. Winn   
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   >>Then why are the children dead?   
   >>For that matter, why is it OK in your opinion to kill live children   
   >>because their parents were immoral, but not OK for fetuses to be killed   
   >>because their parents were immoral?   
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   > It is not Ok in my opinion to kill live children.   
      
   Unless "God" says so.   
      
    The Assyrian   
   > soldiers who killed children as described in the verse you quoted will   
   > answer to God for killing the children. The Babylonians who killed   
   > children as prophesied by Ezekiel will answer to God for what they   
   > did. The pro-abortion who kill children today will answer to God for   
   > what they are doing.   
   > Robert B. Winn   
      
   I wouldn't hold my breath about that one either.   
      
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