XPost: alt.abortion, alt.abortion.inequity, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.support.abortion, talk.abortion   
   From: ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com   
      
   Robert B. Winn wrote:   
   > --sexkitten--  wrote in message   
   news:<2lqrooFf49ukU10@uni-berlin.de>...   
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   >>Robert B. Winn wrote:   
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   >>>--sexkitten--  wrote in message   
   news:<2jth00F150k14U1@uni-berlin.de>...   
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   >>>>Robert B. Winn wrote:   
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   >>>>>--sexkitten--  wrote in message   
   news:<2j6t9cFttssmU4@uni-berlin.de>...   
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   >>>>>>Robert B. Winn wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>Ron Nicholson  wrote in message news:...   
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   >>>>>>>>In article <7943568.0406140511.7c4652eb@posting.google.com>,   
   >>>>>>>>rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>Ron Nicholson  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>news:...   
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   >>>>>>>>>>In article <7943568.0406131710.3015ad82@posting.google.com>,   
   >>>>>>>>>>rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>Ron Nicholson  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>news:...   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>In article <7943568.0406131254.1688b26b@posting.google.com>,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>The basic fact is that you keep claiming that evil is going to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>triumph   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>over   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>good.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>It does appear that way. Abortion has been legal for 25 years and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>abortion is said to be evil. Evil1, Good 0.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>Well, as a United States citizen, I say that abortion has never been   
   >>>>>>>>>>>legal.  Evil 0,  good 1.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>Heard of Roe? Have you seen statutes on abortion by state?   
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   >>>>>>>>>>Clearly, this is your phantasy and not the reality of the history of   
   >>>>>>>>>>abortion in the US.   
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   >>>>>>>>>A court opinion is not a law.   
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   >>>>>>>>A woman walks into planned parenthood today and proceeds with an   
   >>>>>>>>abortion. Your contention is that abortion is not legal. Please explain   
   >>>>>>>>your position that she is now in violation of the law.   
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   >>>>>>>All states had laws in effect to prohibit what you describe.  A   
   >>>>>>>Supreme Court opinion does not change that.   
   >>>>>>>Robert B. Winn   
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   >>>>>>The Supreme Court's job is to interpret the constitution, so their   
   >>>>>>opinion DOES change that. And what laws do the states have to prevent   
   >>>>>>abortion?   
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   >>>>>The law I was  born under that prevented abortion was California Penal   
   >>>>>Code sections 274, 275, 276.  That law is still in effect because the   
   >>>>>United States Supreme Court does not have original jurisdiction in   
   >>>>>capital cases.  They cannot sentence people to death.  It has to be   
   >>>>>done by a lower court.   
   >>>>>Robert b. winn   
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   >>>>All states are subject to federal laws, and CAN be negated by the USSC   
   >>>>if they are in conflict with federal laws (that would be the   
   >>>>Constitution, Robert). A good example would be Furman v. Georgia, 408   
   >>>>U.S. 153 (1972) which struck down the death penalty nationwide- the DP   
   >>>>laws conflicted with the constitution, and were therefore invalidated by   
   >>>>the nine guys empowered to do so.   
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   >>>Sorry, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, not nine guys.   
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   >>You mean the nine guys established by the Constitution *specifically* to   
   >>interpret the Constitution, and rule on what the Constitution says?   
   >>Those nine guys?   
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   >>> In recent years, if it did not have anything to do with distributing   
   >>>pornography or coordinating homicides of children, the nine guys have   
   >>>done almost nothing.   
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   >>Somebody hasn't been paying a whole lot of attention to the news in   
   >>"recent years".   
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   >>>The nine guys are about as meaningful as the abortions and pornography   
   >>>they generated.   
   >>>Robert B. winn   
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   > There is nothing in the Constitution about anyone interpreting the   
   > Constitution.  The Constitution was intended to mean what it says.   
   > Robert B. Winn   
      
   Article III   
      
   Section. 2.   
      
   Clause 1: The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and   
   Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States,   
   and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to   
   all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to   
   all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to   
   which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two   
   or more States;--between a State and Citizens of another State; (See   
   Note 10)--between Citizens of different States, --between Citizens of   
   the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and   
   between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens   
   or Subjects.   
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