XPost: alt.abortion, alt.abortion.inequity, alt.atheism
XPost: alt.support.abortion, talk.abortion
From: ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com
Robert B. Winn wrote:
> --sexkitten-- wrote in message
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>>Robert B. Winn wrote:
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>>>>Robert B. Winn wrote:
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>>>>>>Robert B. Winn wrote:
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>>>>>>>>Robert B. Winn wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>Ron Nicholson wrote in message news:
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>>>>>>>>>>In article <7943568.0406140511.7c4652eb@posting.google.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Nicholson wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>>>>In article <7943568.0406131710.3015ad82@posting.google.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ron Nicholson wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In article <7943568.0406131254.1688b26b@posting.google.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The basic fact is that you keep claiming that evil is going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>triumph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>good.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It does appear that way. Abortion has been legal for 25 years and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>abortion is said to be evil. Evil1, Good 0.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, as a United States citizen, I say that abortion has never
been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>legal. Evil 0, good 1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Heard of Roe? Have you seen statutes on abortion by state?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Clearly, this is your phantasy and not the reality of the history
of
>>>>>>>>>>>>abortion in the US.
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>>>>>>>>>>>A court opinion is not a law.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>A woman walks into planned parenthood today and proceeds with an
>>>>>>>>>>abortion. Your contention is that abortion is not legal. Please
explain
>>>>>>>>>>your position that she is now in violation of the law.
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>>>>>>>>>All states had laws in effect to prohibit what you describe. A
>>>>>>>>>Supreme Court opinion does not change that.
>>>>>>>>>Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The Supreme Court's job is to interpret the constitution, so their
>>>>>>>>opinion DOES change that. And what laws do the states have to prevent
>>>>>>>>abortion?
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>>>>>>>The law I was born under that prevented abortion was California Penal
>>>>>>>Code sections 274, 275, 276. That law is still in effect because the
>>>>>>>United States Supreme Court does not have original jurisdiction in
>>>>>>>capital cases. They cannot sentence people to death. It has to be
>>>>>>>done by a lower court.
>>>>>>>Robert b. winn
>>>>>>
>>>>>>All states are subject to federal laws, and CAN be negated by the USSC
>>>>>>if they are in conflict with federal laws (that would be the
>>>>>>Constitution, Robert). A good example would be Furman v. Georgia, 408
>>>>>>U.S. 153 (1972) which struck down the death penalty nationwide- the DP
>>>>>>laws conflicted with the constitution, and were therefore invalidated by
>>>>>>the nine guys empowered to do so.
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>>>>>Sorry, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, not nine guys.
>>>>
>>>>You mean the nine guys established by the Constitution *specifically* to
>>>>interpret the Constitution, and rule on what the Constitution says?
>>>>Those nine guys?
>>>>
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>>>>>In recent years, if it did not have anything to do with distributing
>>>>>pornography or coordinating homicides of children, the nine guys have
>>>>>done almost nothing.
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>>>>Somebody hasn't been paying a whole lot of attention to the news in
>>>>"recent years".
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>>>>>The nine guys are about as meaningful as the abortions and pornography
>>>>>they generated.
>>>>>Robert B. winn
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>>>
>>>There is nothing in the Constitution about anyone interpreting the
>>>Constitution. The Constitution was intended to mean what it says.
>>>Robert B. Winn
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>>Article III
>>
>>Section. 2.
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>>Clause 1: The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and
>>Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States,
>>and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to
>>all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to
>>all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to
>>which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two
>>or more States;--between a State and Citizens of another State; (See
>>Note 10)--between Citizens of different States, --between Citizens of
>>the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and
>>between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens
>>or Subjects.
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> The judicial power extends to cases arising under the Constitution,
> not to the Constitution itself. What are you trying to do, show that
> you are feeble minded enough to be on the Supreme Court?
No, but I think you are trying to show that you are more than feeble-
minded enough to be President.
> Robert B. winn
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