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|    ChimChimery ChimChimery to All    |
|    Re: My Views on Abortion    |
|    22 Feb 05 21:39:54    |
      From: MsMaryPoppins@webtv.net              'Firstly, Life is about freedom of choice. If we dont have it then we       dont have control of our lives.'       Reply: No..firstly , life is about treating anothers life with the       utmost of dignity, respect, and infinite worth since that other person       is also made in the image of the Creator, and thus, has the same equal       rights as everyone else. This is what the Bill of Rights says , and its       for every human being....whos life being scientifically proven, starts       at conception. 'Freedom of Choice' is youre preference for a chocholate       donut and mine is for a jelly-filled one at the same Donut Shop , when       we walk in together.              'When does a human have a right to decide their own life? '       Reply : The mother is a Trustee of her developing child , and thus has       no right to terminate its development . If i were the Trustee to your       house...would i have the right to terminate your house by making it       unlivable ??? Neither does a mother have the right to make her       independent life thats growing , unlivable .              'Well I say if nature/God allows children as young as 14-15yo to create       life , then that is the age at which decisions can be made regarding       ones own body, people! I know many of you are in shock at this assertion       but tell that to God/nature.'       Reply : A 10 year old can create a pipe bomb given the choice ; so, is       he justified in choosing to terminate/destroy something ? Your 14-15       year old teenager has the right to decide what pants or shirt to put on       his/her body on any given day....but does not have the right to       horrifically brutilize to death the most innocent form of defenseless       human life. Even if its within her. No need for me to tell it to God...       God has already told us that life is precious, that he knew us before we       were formed in the womb (Psalm 139) , and, that we have infinite worth       and dignity being made in his image ; now its up to Mothers to give that       infinite worth and dignity to themselves, and, their developing       offspring.              'Secondly, Free contraception must be available to all possible       child-creating people to allow them the choice of recreation or       recreation, if you know what I mean..'       Reply: The more contraception thats handed out, the greater the       pregnancy/abortion rate will be due to illicit sex occuring more often       (condoms break , rip, and come off...and they dont stop all STD's) ;       there is no 100 percent foolproof contraception...unless a woman has had       a hysterectomy.              'Thirdly, If a couple conceive a child, regardless of age, then that       couple alone should decide what to do next. Either they keep the child       and the state will help care for that child until the couple can support       themselves, or the couple together can decide to terminate that child, '       Reply: This wouldnt even be a concern if people would follow the       Creators plan for sex, instead of the current cultures plan of       prematurely killing 4400 developing human beings, per DAY in the       USA...of which approx. 95% are to hide the shame of an illicit fling       gone wrong.              'In the case of rape or danger to the woman's life, then because the       woman had no free choice in the creation of that child, or her life is       in danger if birth proceeds, she can choose to abort the child. ''       Reply: Why should an innocent life pay the price for a heinous moral       crime like rape ? There are many couples who cant have children that       would be even willing to care for a child from a rape. The infinite       worth and dignity of the child still hasnt changed.              'If gay couples wish to adopt a child thats fine too. But as God/nature       intended children to have both sexes to raise them, it is in the best       interest of the child for a heterosexual childless couple to have first       preference over a gay couple. If God/nature had wanted gays to bring up       children he/she would have allowed them to also reproduce.'       Reply: God condemns the homosexual lifestyle in no uncertain terms in       the Bible. He would not want them to be raising children in a perverted       lifestyle for which they cannot enter heaven (unless they ask for       forgiveness and change). Gods idea , is for children to have a mom and a       dad for the maximum emotional development of the child in a good loving       environment to which that ethic/value can be passed along to future       generations-- which is why he expects the developing child to make it       thru the birth canal -- not butchered and sucked into a sink while the       mother waits patiently within 3 feet.              'This is the New Millenium people. We have to start afresh with how we       think. We need to look at this issue with consideration of all parties       concerned and with due respect to priorities once a child is conceived       and with regard to what nature/God has allowed us as humans to do.'       Reply: Yes...the new millenium of Americas Halocaust. God has not       allowed humans to have a free will choice in terminating other human       life ... especially ones own flesh and blood. The philosophy youve       willfully adopted, is the lowest view of innocent human life . Your mom       and dad didnt share what you advocate.              'We must forget what society has told us is "correct" and start afresh       with laws that are in tune with what nature has allowed us'       Reply: We must forget what society has told us about human life being       so expendable to accomodate sexual immorality 'choices'...and return to       what the Founders of this Nation knew was needed for America to be moral       and ethical : A deep respect and personal relationship with the Creator       .not nature, but, God the Creator ; not Pond Scum to Human       Beings...but, the Creator.              'Most importantly, freedom of choice and responsibility for one's own       actions is the key to whatever laws we continue to apply to ourselves.'       Reply: What youve just described here, is, Moral Relativism .... the       springboard to anarchy . The Creator cared enough for us to give us       absolute moral standards to life by in hopes that we would 'choose' to       follow them ---- not discount them based on what you want to do and, how       you feel at any given time (situational ethics).       George Washington said in his inaugural address that :' .... if America       ever turned its back on God and his principles, the nation would come to       ruin" . It is.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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