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   ChimChimery ChimChimery to All   
   Re: My Views on Abortion   
   22 Feb 05 21:39:54   
   
   From: MsMaryPoppins@webtv.net   
      
   'Firstly, Life is about freedom of choice. If we dont have it then we   
   dont have control of our lives.'   
   Reply: No..firstly , life is about treating anothers life with the   
   utmost of dignity, respect, and infinite worth since that other person   
   is also made in the image of the Creator, and thus, has the same equal   
   rights as everyone else. This is what the Bill of Rights says , and its   
   for every human being....whos life being scientifically proven, starts   
   at conception. 'Freedom of Choice' is youre preference for a chocholate   
   donut and mine is for a jelly-filled one at the same Donut Shop , when   
   we walk in together.   
      
   'When does a human have a right to decide their own life? '   
   Reply : The mother is a Trustee of her developing child , and thus has   
   no right to terminate its development . If i were the Trustee to your   
   house...would i have the right to terminate your house by making it   
   unlivable ??? Neither does a mother have the right to make her   
   independent life thats growing , unlivable .   
      
   'Well I say if nature/God allows children as young as 14-15yo to create   
   life , then that is the age at which decisions can be made regarding   
   ones own body, people! I know many of you are in shock at this assertion   
   but tell that to God/nature.'   
   Reply : A 10 year old can create a pipe bomb given the choice ; so, is   
   he justified in choosing to terminate/destroy something ?   Your 14-15   
   year old teenager has the right to decide what pants or shirt to put on   
   his/her body on any given day....but does not have the right to   
   horrifically brutilize to death the most innocent form of defenseless   
   human life. Even if its within her. No need for me to tell it to God...   
   God has already told us that life is precious, that he knew us before we   
   were formed in the womb (Psalm 139) , and, that we have infinite worth   
   and dignity being made in his image ; now its up to Mothers to give that   
   infinite worth and dignity to themselves, and, their developing   
   offspring.   
      
   'Secondly, Free contraception must be available to all possible   
   child-creating people to allow them the choice of recreation or   
   recreation, if you know what I mean..'   
   Reply: The more contraception thats handed out, the greater the   
   pregnancy/abortion rate will be due to illicit sex occuring more often   
   (condoms break , rip, and come off...and they dont stop all STD's) ;   
   there is no 100 percent foolproof contraception...unless a woman has had   
   a hysterectomy.   
      
   'Thirdly, If a couple conceive a child, regardless of age, then that   
   couple alone should decide what to do next. Either they keep the child   
   and the state will help care for that child until the couple can support   
   themselves, or the couple together can decide to terminate that child, '   
   Reply: This wouldnt even be a concern if people would follow the   
   Creators plan for sex, instead of the current cultures plan of   
   prematurely killing 4400 developing human beings, per DAY in the   
   USA...of which approx. 95% are to hide the shame of an illicit fling   
   gone wrong.   
      
   'In the case of rape or danger to the woman's life, then because the   
   woman had no free choice in the creation of that child, or her life is   
   in danger if birth proceeds, she can choose to abort the child. ''   
   Reply: Why should an innocent life pay the price for a heinous moral   
   crime like rape ?   There are many couples who cant have children that   
   would be even willing to care for a child from a rape. The infinite   
   worth and dignity of the child still hasnt changed.   
      
   'If gay couples wish to adopt a child thats fine too. But as God/nature   
   intended children to have both sexes to raise them, it is in the best   
   interest of the child for a heterosexual childless couple to have first   
   preference over a gay couple. If God/nature had wanted gays to bring up   
   children he/she would have allowed them to also reproduce.'   
   Reply: God condemns the homosexual lifestyle in no uncertain terms in   
   the Bible. He would not want them to be raising children in a perverted   
   lifestyle for which they cannot enter heaven (unless they ask for   
   forgiveness and change). Gods idea , is for children to have a mom and a   
   dad for the maximum emotional development of the child in a good loving   
   environment to which that ethic/value can be passed along to future   
   generations-- which is why he expects the developing child to make it   
   thru the birth canal -- not butchered and sucked into a sink while the   
   mother waits patiently within 3 feet.   
      
   'This is the New Millenium people. We have to start afresh with how we   
   think. We need to look at this issue with consideration of all parties   
   concerned and with due respect to priorities once a child is conceived   
   and with regard to what nature/God has allowed us as humans to do.'   
   Reply: Yes...the new millenium of Americas Halocaust. God has not   
   allowed humans to have a free will choice in terminating other human   
   life ... especially ones own flesh and blood. The philosophy youve   
   willfully adopted, is the lowest view of innocent human life . Your mom   
   and dad didnt share what you advocate.   
      
   'We must forget what society has told us is "correct" and start afresh   
   with laws that are in tune with what nature has allowed us'   
   Reply: We must forget what society has told us about human life being   
   so expendable to accomodate sexual immorality 'choices'...and return to   
   what the Founders of this Nation knew was needed for America to be moral   
   and ethical : A deep respect and personal relationship with the Creator   
   .not nature, but, God the Creator ; not Pond Scum to Human   
   Beings...but, the Creator.   
      
   'Most importantly, freedom of choice and responsibility for one's own   
   actions is the key to whatever laws we continue to apply to ourselves.'   
   Reply: What youve just described here, is, Moral Relativism .... the   
   springboard to anarchy . The Creator cared enough for us to give us   
   absolute moral standards to life by in hopes that we would 'choose' to   
   follow them ---- not discount them based on what you want to do and, how   
   you feel at any given time (situational ethics).   
   George Washington said in his inaugural address that :' .... if America   
   ever turned its back on God and his principles, the nation would come to   
   ruin" .   It is.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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