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   From: prochoice@here.now   
      
   On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:21:20 -0400, "Michael"   
    in alt.abortion with   
   message-id  wrote:   
      
   >   
   >"Paul Anderson"  wrote in message   
   >news:43297caa.341526078@news.la.sbcglobal.net...   
   >> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:06:55 -0400, "Michael"   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>"Attila"  wrote ....   
   >>   
   >>>> Prove any god exists.   
   >>>   
   >>>What would be proof to you?  You could ask God any question.  The proplem   
   >>>with getting answers, is that you may not be ready to receive your answer   
   >>>yet.  A couple of my questions took about 40 years.  Perhaps proof will be   
   >>>easier after spending some time with the FACTS...  Forgiving, Accepting,   
   >>>Compassion, Thankfulness and Sensing Spirit.   
   >>   
   >> Proof would have to be something beyond "After 40 years something good   
   >> happened to me -- therefore God exists."  Proof is something more than   
   >> "we exists, I don't know why, thus God exists."   
   >>   
   >> You need to show that what happens is caused by God and cannot be   
   >> caused by something more reasonable.   
   >   
   >Perhaps you missed what I was trying to impart.  What I have experienced   
   >has proved the existance of God to me, and continues to make sense of most   
   >everything.  But, these experiences are what were relevant to me.  What is   
   >relevant to you, is what is relevant to you.  What is proof to you is what   
   >is   
   >proof to you.  Your criteria for proof could be so high that you would be   
   >unlikely to experience that proof.   
      
   Proof is not experienced.  Do you experience the proof an elephant   
   exists?  Or that Mars exists?   
      
   >What question could you ask that an   
   >answer would proove that God existed for you?   
   >   
   None.  Proof seldom involves answers to questions.   
      
   Main Entry: 1proof   
   Pronunciation: 'prüf   
   Function: noun   
   Etymology: Middle English, alteration of preove, from Old French   
   preuve, from Late Latin proba, from Latin probare to prove -- more at   
   PROVE   
   1 a : the cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a   
   truth or a fact b : the process or an instance of establishing the   
   validity of a statement especially by derivation from other statements   
   in accordance with principles of reasoning   
   2 obsolete : EXPERIENCE   
   3 : something that induces certainty or establishes validity   
   4 archaic : the quality or state of having been tested or tried;   
   especially : unyielding hardness   
   5 : evidence operating to determine the finding or judgment of a   
   tribunal   
   6 a plural proofs or proof : a copy (as of typeset text) made for   
   examination or correction b : a test impression of an engraving,   
   etching, or lithograph c : a coin that is struck from a   
   highly-polished die on a polished planchet, is not intended for   
   circulation, and sometimes differs in metallic content from coins of   
   identical design struck for circulation d : a test photographic print   
   made from a negative   
   7 : a test applied to articles or substances to determine whether they   
   are of standard or satisfactory quality   
   8 a : the minimum alcoholic strength of proof spirit b : strength with   
   reference to the standard for proof spirit; specifically : alcoholic   
   strength indicated by a number that is twice the percent by volume of   
   alcohol present