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   From: prochoice@here.now   
      
   On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:45:53 GMT, elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson)   
   in alt.abortion with message-id   
   <4329f104.371311968@news.la.sbcglobal.net> wrote:   
      
   >On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:21:20 -0400, "Michael"   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>"Paul Anderson"  wrote in message   
   >>news:43297caa.341526078@news.la.sbcglobal.net...   
   >>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:06:55 -0400, "Michael"   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"Attila"  wrote ....   
   >>>   
   >>>>> Prove any god exists.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>What would be proof to you?  You could ask God any question.  The proplem   
   >>>>with getting answers, is that you may not be ready to receive your answer   
   >>>>yet.  A couple of my questions took about 40 years.  Perhaps proof will be   
   >>>>easier after spending some time with the FACTS...  Forgiving, Accepting,   
   >>>>Compassion, Thankfulness and Sensing Spirit.   
   >>>   
   >>> Proof would have to be something beyond "After 40 years something good   
   >>> happened to me -- therefore God exists."  Proof is something more than   
   >>> "we exists, I don't know why, thus God exists."   
   >>>   
   >>> You need to show that what happens is caused by God and cannot be   
   >>> caused by something more reasonable.   
   >>   
   >>Perhaps you missed what I was trying to impart.  What I have experienced   
   >>has proved the existance of God to me, and continues to make sense of most   
   >>everything.  But, these experiences are what were relevant to me.  What is   
   >>relevant to you, is what is relevant to you.  What is proof to you is what   
   >>is   
   >>proof to you.  Your criteria for proof could be so high that you would be   
   >>unlikely to experience that proof.   
   >   
   >Proof is independent of belief and personal experience.   
   >   
   >So you asked questions and eventually you came up with the answers.   
   >Why do you feel it was God that answered rather than some other,   
   >simplier explanation?   Are defining God as some sort of Oracle?   
   >   
   >>What question could you ask that an   
   >>answer would proove that God existed for you?   
   >   
   >Man in Black: Nothing comes to mind.   
   >   
   >My beliefs have nothing whatsoever to do with any proof.   
   >Your beliefs have nothing whatsoever to do with any proof.   
   >   
   >What is being asked is proof that a god, any god, exists.  Attila is   
   >being generous in that you get to define what you mean by God;   
   >although you may be challenged as to why your definition is valid.   
   >Once you have stated what God is, then you can present evidence for or   
   >against God's existence.   
      
   He can even pick any god he likes.   
      
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