XPost: alt.abortion, alt.abortion.inequity, alt.flame.bill-clint   
   n.abortion.partial-birth   
   XPost: alt.support.abortion   
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   "Mark Sebree" wrote in message   
   news:1139414619.907553.53120@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...   
   >   
   > Johnny wrote:   
   >> "Mark Sebree" wrote in message   
   >> news:1139349936.232200.273810@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...   
   >> >   
   >> > askme@bellsouth.net wrote:   
   >> >> On 7 Feb 2006 13:46:35 -0800, "Mark Sebree"    
   >> >> wrote:   
   >> >>   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >Johnny wrote:   
   >> >> >> "Mark Sebree" wrote in message   
   >> >> >> news:1139346829.682781.53040@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...   
   >> >> >> >   
   >> >> >> > Johnny wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> Since the judges who ruled that partial birth abortions are   
   >> >> >> >> unconstitutional, we know where to look for the culprits of   
   >> >> >> >> these   
   >> >> >> >> fires.   
   >> >> >> >   
   >> >> >> > Among the anti-choice people that you adore would be a good   
   >> >> >> > start.   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> Stop trying to shift the blame, asshole.   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >I am not shifting the blame. The fires that you want to throw people   
   >> >> >into should have people like anti-choice advocates and bigots like   
   >> >> >you   
   >> >> >thrown into it to start with.   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >> > You don't even understand the reason why the acts were ruled   
   >> >> >> > unconstituional.   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> I do understand.   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >Then prove it by not stating that women should die. Try finding out   
   >> >> >WHY Intact Dialation and Extractions are done, and then try giving   
   >> >> >some   
   >> >> >alternatives that do not result in the death of the woman. And yes,   
   >> >> >without the abortion, the woman will almost certainly die. That is   
   >> >> >why   
   >> >> >she is getting the abortion. The other reason is that the fetus is   
   >> >> >already dead and starting to decompose inside her body, another   
   >> >> >circumstance that can cause her death.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> ok if there is no heartbeat aborting could be an option   
   >> >   
   >> > As it is when the woman does not want to remain pregnant. As it is   
   >> > when the pregnancy goes wrong and the woman is subjected to greater   
   >> > than normal danger from the pregnancy or the fetus is non-viable.   
   >> >   
   >> >>   
   >> >> but if you have one it is a living being   
   >> >>   
   >> >   
   >> > Your point? The woman is not a slave nor a walking incubator. She is   
   >> > a free person, and her life and opinion comes first.   
   >>   
   >> Why do you think that men are supposed to be enslaved to your crap?   
   >   
   > I don't.   
      
   It is what you preach.   
      
   > Why do you think women are supposed to be enslaved to your   
   > crap, and forced to continue an unwanted pregnancy?   
      
   Who said that anyone wanted to force women to continue and unwanted   
   pregnancy?   
   Your delusions are very obvious.   
      
   > You are the one   
   > that actually seeks enslavement, not me.   
      
   Bullshit. You propose enslavement to a gayblade and abortion on demand.   
   propagandizing oligarchy that helps no one other than themselves.   
   Indiana code is NOT the Constitution of the United States of America.   
   You act as if women are the only gender that is supposed to be free. Why are   
   you promoting a gender-biased philosophy?   
      
   >>   
   >> > The embryo/fetus can only use her body with her continuous permission.   
   >>   
   >> Wrong. The embryo/fetus needs no permission from the woman.   
   >   
   > Yes, it does.   
      
   No it doesn't. When did you see a fetus seeking permission from any woman?   
      
   > It is using her body, so she must consent to that use.   
      
   She consented to that use by becoming pregnant.   
   She consented to that use by having sex.   
      
   >> How do you think its life began?   
   >   
   > At birth.   
      
   You are a very ignorant person.   
      
   >> Do you think it sought permission from the female first?   
   >   
   > No.   
      
   So, it doesn't need permission from the female. The female voluntarily   
   allowed it to take up residence in her.   
      
   > That is why the woman can withdraw consent if she chooses.   
      
   Feminazi statement.   
      
   > She never gave it permission to use her body in the first place.   
      
   False.   
      
   >>   
   >> > Once that is retracted, assuming that it was ever given, then the woman   
   >> > is   
   >> > free to   
   >> > take whatever means are necessary to end her pregnancy.   
   >>   
   >> Too bad you never asked the fetus what it wanted.   
   >   
   > Since it is using the woman's body without her permission, what it   
   > wants is not material.   
      
   The woman gave it permission to take up residence in her body via her   
   consensual sex act.   
      
   >>   
   >> > Her life, her body, her choice.   
   >>   
   >> Its life, its body, its choice.   
   >   
   > Fine. It can make whatever choices it wants as soon as it immediately   
   > stops using the woman's body. She gets precedence since it is her body   
   > that is being used.   
      
   You are a very disrespectful and ignorant supporter of illicit behaviors.   
      
   >> Why do you promote denial so much of individuals?   
   >>   
   >   
   > I don't.   
      
   You are a liar then.   
      
   > The woman is the only individual, person, and human being   
   > present.   
      
   Wrong.   
      
   >> >>   
   >> >> Please come to Pelzer for some worship!   
   >> >   
   >> > Why would I want to do something stupid like that, especially if you   
   >> > are a typical example of the results of their brainwashing?   
   >>   
   >> Your brain is what has been washed over with ignorance.   
   >   
   > That would be your brain. I have shown repeatedly that my brain is   
   > awash with knowledge and information.   
      
   Your brain is like a sewer.   
      
   >> How did you let it sink in and take hold?   
   >   
   > I didn't. Yours is the brain that is awash with ignorance. You have   
   > never shown any knowledge about any subject that I have seen.   
      
   More evidence of your sewage brain.   
      
   >>   
   >> > Mark Sebree   
   >> >   
   >> > [meaningless drivel snipped]   
   >>   
   >> Musta been something you wrote.   
   >   
   > Nope. Follow the thread back. It was the cut and paste drivel that   
   > nitro wrote. Although it could have been what you wrote, since most of   
   > what you write is drivel anyway.   
      
   You still seem gay.   
      
   >   
   > Mark Sebree   
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