XPost: alt.alt.spamtrap, alt.stupidity, talk.politics.guns
From: webmasta@whatsamattayou.edu
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> On Mar 20, 8:51 am, "ubermutant" wrote:
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> > > On Mar 19, 4:23 pm, "ubermutant" wrote:
> > > > wrote in message
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> > > > > On Mar 19, 10:43 am, "ubermutant"
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> > > > > > "wrabenator" wrote in message
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> > > > > >news:1174246078.452846.235790@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
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> > > > > > > On Mar 18, 12:08 pm, "Nebuchadnezzar II"
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > "Patriot Games" wrote in message
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> > > > > > > >news:pufLh.15020$yj7.2072@trnddc02...
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> > > > > > > > > "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > >news:lfSdnXy4YuehwmDYnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@insightbb.com...
> > > > > > > > >> Or did they impale themselves on his spear?
> >
> > > > > > > > > The Number One candidate for 2008 is a Republican....
> >
> > > > > > > > > So the answer to your question is No.
> >
> > > > > > > > America's choices for the 2008 President.
> >
> > > > > > > > 1) The most charismatic Senator in congress.
> >
> > > > > > > > 2) The wife of the most popular President since JFK.
> >
> > > > > > > > 3) A crossdresser who married his cousin and left one of his
> > wives
> > > > to go
> > > > > > > > live with two gay guys.
> >
> > > > > > > > 4) A flip-flopper who can barely remember what day it is.
> >
> > > > > > > > Have a nice day.
> >
> > > > > > > Re the title of this thread: "Did Bush Kill the GOP?" an
> > appropriate
> > > > > > > response might be "If so, it will be in name only."
> > > > > > > As long as politicians can be bought or rented, the United
States
> > will
> > > > > > > have a money party, dedicated to the interests of the rich,
> > > > > > > individual, familial, or corporate. Whenever the voters learn
the
> > real
> > > > > > > aim of that party it changes its name: from Federalist to
National
> > > > > > > Republican to Whig to Republican. As long as we tolerate
robber
> > > > > > > barons, robber barons will control at least one major
political
> > party,
> > > > > > > regardless of its name.
> >
> > > > > > Why in the world would a robber baron buy only one party and
roll
> > the
> > > > dice
> > > > > > on getting what he wanted? Wouldn't you suppose it'd be a
better
> > deal
> > > > to
> > > > > > buy both and get the guarantee?
> >
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> > > > > Haven't they got that guarantee from time-to-time? But every
now
> > > > > and then the ordinary people raise hell about the corruption and
the
> > > > > barons are stuck with one party, rather than both. When the public
> > > > > understands the money party's real aims, the party goes briefly
out of
> > > > > existence, soon returning under a new name, same game.
> >
> > > > Yep, that was the point. Clearly, they DO buy both sides, and by
all
> > > > accounts it's out of petty cash. The great unwashed rarely get hip
to
> > the
> > > > game, and when they do some character like John McCain will publish
> > another
> > > > set of 'reforms' aimed at fixing the problem (ie, plugging the
leaks).
> > And
> > > > America snoozes on.
> >
> > > > Still, it amazes me that some will perceive, correctly, that party A
or
> > > > party B has been bought but they simply refuse to consider the
> > possibility,
> > > > in the face of all the evidence to the contrary, that 'their' party
is
> > paid
> > > > for too.
> >
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> > > Maybe we owe some praise, albeit faint, to those crooked politicians
> > > who, once bought, don't stay bought, and, occasionally, vote their
> > > constituents' interest, at least until they get the next installment
> > > of bribe money.
> >
> > Your call, you can grant them whatever you want. As for me I don't owe
them
> > any more than I would a thief who left me 50 cents for a phone call.
> >
> > > You're certainly right about bribes' coming from the barons' petty
> > > cash. Corporations hire CEOs as errand boys and investigation-
> > > deflectors for $20 million a year. That'd buy a lot of curruption.
> >
> > Indeed it does.
> >
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> Yes. Amazing, isn't it, how little it costs the barons to buy or rent
> a politician?
> And yet, I may be a bit less cynical than your posts make you seem to
> be. I continue to believe that every now and then a newly elected
> official or newly appointed one arrives at work fully intending to
> execute his oath. In those early days, before the first bribe offer
> arrives, he may actually do his job. Please don't rob me of this hope
> just now; there's a new Congress, and some members actually seem to
> have a watchdog mentality.
>
Cling to your illusions if it makes you feel better. Certainly not all
(politicians) are bought and paid for, but do you honestly think the powers
that be would encourage folks like you and me to vote if voting had a
snowball's chance in hell of implementing meaningful change?
No, they're not all bought. Just the ones that need to be. Competition
helps keep the price down, doncha know? Press the button and get your
cookie if you will, but I'm done with that horsepucky. I'm ashamed I bought
the line for as many years as I did. Otoh, some folks never get it at all.
b.
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