From: toolittletoolate@poo.com   
      
   Rick wrote:   
   > In article ,   
   >  Snit  wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   >>"Rick"  wrote in Rick-B0BB8D.10282317082004@news.telus.net on   
   >>8/17/04 10:28 AM:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>In article ,   
   >>>Snit  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>"Rick"  wrote in Rick-2790D9.10001617082004@news.telus.net   
   >>>>on   
   >>>>8/17/04 10:00 AM:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>In article ,   
   >>>>>Snit  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Well, I chose this/that group partially because of its traffic. I'm   
   >>>>>>>getting no more than what I came to see.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>True... csma would be a bit boring without at least some of the   
   >>>>>>fighting...   
   >>>>>>I think you would be hard pressed to find any regular who is not   
   >>>>>>currently   
   >>>>>>or has not recently been in what is ... essentially... a meaningless   
   >>>>>>fight   
   >>>>>>that *nobody* cares about.  Well... on reflection, I think some people   
   >>>>>>do   
   >>>>>>care about it... and they either seem to get truly upset or do things   
   >>>>>>that   
   >>>>>>are just absurd like threaten to send garbage to someone's employer or   
   >>>>>>even   
   >>>>>>call the police and make false allegations.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>OK, I may regret this, but what the hell was this dustup all about?   
   >>>>>(Short version if possible - I've read lots of allegations)   
   >>>>   
   >>>>dustup?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>If you mean the pushing things into the "real" world... I blamed Elizabot   
   >>>>of   
   >>>>being obsessive over me... somewhat to irk her and somewhat because almost   
   >>>>all of her posts *are* about me (I showed stats that is was, I believe   
   >>>>98%,   
   >>>>and she came back that it was only 96% or something silly like that).   
   >>>>Well,   
   >>>>she decided that this constituted a risk, so she hunted down my home city   
   >>>>(not hard to do) and threatened to call the police because show though I   
   >>>>was   
   >>>>close to crossing some line...   
   >>>   
   >>>show though == she thought?   
   >>   
   >>Yes.  Sorry.   
   >>   
   >>>>This was a serious enough threat where I did go to the police... and   
   >>>>talked   
   >>>>to her local police and her ISP (her ISP got me in contact with her local   
   >>>>police department).  I filed a complaint, but made it clear I was not   
   >>>>looking to press charges unless she carried out her threats.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>I would like to think she is just joking... but you never know online.  In   
   >>>>my view that really is the only thing I have ever seen in csma to cross   
   >>>>any   
   >>>>line of what is reasonable in an advocacy group.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Since then she has also suggested she would like to see someone send her   
   >>>>claims to my employer... and has done the research to track that down as   
   >>>>well... not real hard but certainly a bit odd.  She has continued to make   
   >>>>a   
   >>>>few other similar threats.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>When I say I see her as a potential danger I am neither joking nor   
   >>>>exaggerating.  If I ever see her make similar threats to anyone else I   
   >>>>will   
   >>>>be happy to share my experiences in more detail and to provide the person   
   >>>>with the names of the officers I have spoken to and the case numbers so   
   >>>>they   
   >>>>can reference them if they need to defend themselves against her or wish   
   >>>>to   
   >>>>press charges against her.   
   >>>   
   >>>OK, now, since she's over here. I'd like to ask Elizabot to put forward   
   >>>her account. Your account seems reasonable.   
   >>   
   >>Thanks.  This is not something I am interested in getting into a prolonged   
   >>debate over... too much chance it will become a real risk.  I will likely   
   >>ignore her response, but if you have questions, I will be open to answering   
   >>them.   
      
   You've been saying that for months, Snit.   
      
   >   
   > No problem. I'm only somewhat curious, if she can summarize what her   
   > view of the problem is, then perhaps it can be addressed.   
      
   I'm working on it. I'm not as quick with my writing as Snit is. If I   
   make a sentence that is not quite right, there's a fair chance he'll   
   jump on it.   
      
   > Honestly, the back and forth accusations/references/whatnot do destroy   
   > conversation in the other group. I appreciate that you, at least, and   
   > now maybe Elizabot are making something of an effort.   
      
   I'm going to cross post my response about the police back, as there are   
   a couple posters who would like to know that Snit actually did go to the   
   police over this matter.   
      
   But lunch comes first.   
      
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