XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: Rick@dot.dot   
      
   In article <412258b7$0$205$75868355@news.frii.net>,   
    Elizabot  wrote:   
      
   > Or so he claims...   
   >   
   > Rick wrote:   
   > > In article ,   
   > >  Snit  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >>"Rick"  wrote in Rick-2790D9.10001617082004@news.telus.net on   
   > >>8/17/04 10:00 AM:   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >>>In article ,   
   > >>>Snit  wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>>>Well, I chose this/that group partially because of its traffic. I'm   
   > >>>>>getting no more than what I came to see.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>True... csma would be a bit boring without at least some of the   
   > >>>>fighting...   
   > >>>>I think you would be hard pressed to find any regular who is not   
   > >>>>currently   
   > >>>>or has not recently been in what is ... essentially... a meaningless   
   > >>>>fight   
   > >>>>that *nobody* cares about.  Well... on reflection, I think some people do   
   > >>>>care about it... and they either seem to get truly upset or do things   
   > >>>>that   
   > >>>>are just absurd like threaten to send garbage to someone's employer or   
   > >>>>even   
   > >>>>call the police and make false allegations.   
   > >>>   
   > >>>OK, I may regret this, but what the hell was this dustup all about?   
   > >>>(Short version if possible - I've read lots of allegations)   
   > >>   
   > >>dustup?   
   > >>   
   > >>If you mean the pushing things into the "real" world... I blamed Elizabot   
   > >>of   
   > >>being obsessive over me... somewhat to irk her and somewhat because almost   
   > >>all of her posts *are* about me (I showed stats that is was, I believe 98%,   
   > >>and she came back that it was only 96% or something silly like that).   
   > >>Well,   
   > >>she decided that this constituted a risk, so she hunted down my home city   
   > >>(not hard to do) and threatened to call the police because show though I   
   > >>was   
   > >>close to crossing some line...   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > show though == she thought?   
   > >   
   > >>This was a serious enough threat where I did go to the police... and talked   
   > >>to her local police and her ISP (her ISP got me in contact with her local   
   > >>police department).  I filed a complaint, but made it clear I was not   
   > >>looking to press charges unless she carried out her threats.   
   > >>   
   > >>I would like to think she is just joking... but you never know online.  In   
   > >>my view that really is the only thing I have ever seen in csma to cross any   
   > >>line of what is reasonable in an advocacy group.   
   > >>   
   > >>Since then she has also suggested she would like to see someone send her   
   > >>claims to my employer... and has done the research to track that down as   
   > >>well... not real hard but certainly a bit odd.  She has continued to make a   
   > >>few other similar threats.   
   > >>   
   > >>When I say I see her as a potential danger I am neither joking nor   
   > >>exaggerating.  If I ever see her make similar threats to anyone else I will   
   > >>be happy to share my experiences in more detail and to provide the person   
   > >>with the names of the officers I have spoken to and the case numbers so   
   > >>they   
   > >>can reference them if they need to defend themselves against her or wish to   
   > >>press charges against her.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > OK, now, since she's over here. I'd like to ask Elizabot to put forward   
   > > her account. Your account seems reasonable.   
   >   
   > This is the first that I've heard that he actually contacted my local   
   > police and that he filed a complaint. I have never contacted the police,   
   > although I did threaten to *if he crossed the line*. Snit gets so wound   
   > up that I thought he might take the flame war into the real world.   
   >   
   > Apparently I was right to presume so because he has.   
   >   
   > In a post that I wrote to counter a bunch of his accusations and lies   
   > about me, I wrote "You are very near to crossing the line. I will not   
   > hesitate to contact the Prescott Police Department if you do. And that's   
   > a promise." That's what set Snit off.   
   >   
   > Apparently the police told Snit that I was not someone he should be   
   > talking to, but you see, Snit still does, so I can't believe he is   
   > serious about any of this.   
      
   Which set of police? Your local police? You have not contacted the   
   police in Prescott, so I presume that you know that the police told him   
   not to talk to you only through his posts.   
      
   >   
   > Snit has used this whole incident as an excuse to harass me further.   
   > Like with you, Rick, for instance.   
      
   Well, this was in a response to me asking him/you to move this out of   
   the main discussion area, so I don't think that he orchestrated the   
   whole thing...   
      
   > He tried with another poster too. I   
   > find Snit thouroughly reprehensible and believe he deserves any   
   > discomfort I serve him. He absolutely thrives on this stuff! It stirs up   
   > his pathetic and otherwise dull life.   
   >   
   > Your volley, Snit. Make it a good one this time.   
      
   Hey, as an outside observer who is trying to limit his exposure to all   
   the crap, without simultaneously removing potentially valuable and   
   interesting commentary, I'd like to make a suggestion, if I may.   
      
   I realize that I don't have the history here to comment authoritatively   
   on this mess, but I think that at least Snit has attempted to move the   
   crap out of here. Could I ask the people who feel compelled to address   
   him, to at least do so in the otherwise dead flame group?   
      
   --   
   Rick...   
      
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