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   Message 129 of 403   
   Elizabot to Rick   
   Re: Snit Filed Complaint Against Me (1/2   
   17 Aug 04 13:46:53   
   
   From: toolittletoolate@poo.com   
      
   Rick wrote:   
      
   > In article <412258b7$0$205$75868355@news.frii.net>,   
   >  Elizabot  wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   >>Or so he claims...   
   >>   
   >>Rick wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>In article ,   
   >>> Snit  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>"Rick"  wrote in Rick-2790D9.10001617082004@news.telus.net on   
   >>>>8/17/04 10:00 AM:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>In article ,   
   >>>>>Snit  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Well, I chose this/that group partially because of its traffic. I'm   
   >>>>>>>getting no more than what I came to see.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>True... csma would be a bit boring without at least some of the   
   >>>>>>fighting...   
   >>>>>>I think you would be hard pressed to find any regular who is not   
   >>>>>>currently   
   >>>>>>or has not recently been in what is ... essentially... a meaningless   
   >>>>>>fight   
   >>>>>>that *nobody* cares about.  Well... on reflection, I think some people do   
   >>>>>>care about it... and they either seem to get truly upset or do things   
   >>>>>>that   
   >>>>>>are just absurd like threaten to send garbage to someone's employer or   
   >>>>>>even   
   >>>>>>call the police and make false allegations.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>OK, I may regret this, but what the hell was this dustup all about?   
   >>>>>(Short version if possible - I've read lots of allegations)   
   >>>>   
   >>>>dustup?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>If you mean the pushing things into the "real" world... I blamed Elizabot   
   >>>>of   
   >>>>being obsessive over me... somewhat to irk her and somewhat because almost   
   >>>>all of her posts *are* about me (I showed stats that is was, I believe 98%,   
   >>>>and she came back that it was only 96% or something silly like that).   
   >>>>Well,   
   >>>>she decided that this constituted a risk, so she hunted down my home city   
   >>>>(not hard to do) and threatened to call the police because show though I   
   >>>>was   
   >>>>close to crossing some line...   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>show though == she thought?   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>This was a serious enough threat where I did go to the police... and talked   
   >>>>to her local police and her ISP (her ISP got me in contact with her local   
   >>>>police department).  I filed a complaint, but made it clear I was not   
   >>>>looking to press charges unless she carried out her threats.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>I would like to think she is just joking... but you never know online.  In   
   >>>>my view that really is the only thing I have ever seen in csma to cross any   
   >>>>line of what is reasonable in an advocacy group.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Since then she has also suggested she would like to see someone send her   
   >>>>claims to my employer... and has done the research to track that down as   
   >>>>well... not real hard but certainly a bit odd.  She has continued to make a   
   >>>>few other similar threats.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>When I say I see her as a potential danger I am neither joking nor   
   >>>>exaggerating.  If I ever see her make similar threats to anyone else I will   
   >>>>be happy to share my experiences in more detail and to provide the person   
   >>>>with the names of the officers I have spoken to and the case numbers so   
   >>>>they   
   >>>>can reference them if they need to defend themselves against her or wish to   
   >>>>press charges against her.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>OK, now, since she's over here. I'd like to ask Elizabot to put forward   
   >>>her account. Your account seems reasonable.   
   >>   
   >>This is the first that I've heard that he actually contacted my local   
   >>police and that he filed a complaint. I have never contacted the police,   
   >>although I did threaten to *if he crossed the line*. Snit gets so wound   
   >>up that I thought he might take the flame war into the real world.   
   >>   
   >>Apparently I was right to presume so because he has.   
   >>   
   >>In a post that I wrote to counter a bunch of his accusations and lies   
   >>about me, I wrote "You are very near to crossing the line. I will not   
   >>hesitate to contact the Prescott Police Department if you do. And that's   
   >>a promise." That's what set Snit off.   
   >>   
   >>Apparently the police told Snit that I was not someone he should be   
   >>talking to, but you see, Snit still does, so I can't believe he is   
   >>serious about any of this.   
   >   
   >   
   > Which set of police? Your local police? You have not contacted the   
   > police in Prescott, so I presume that you know that the police told him   
   > not to talk to you only through his posts.   
      
   Correct. Snit has been fairly reticent about the whole police issue. I   
   do not know any more about it than you do. This is the most Snit has   
   written about it since the time it came up in January/February, I believe.   
      
   >>Snit has used this whole incident as an excuse to harass me further.   
   >>Like with you, Rick, for instance.   
   >   
   >   
   > Well, this was in a response to me asking him/you to move this out of   
   > the main discussion area, so I don't think that he orchestrated the   
   > whole thing...   
      
   No, but he has said he will bring up whenever he feels he needs to warn   
   anyone about me. As I said, it's his excuse to harass me when new   
   posters show up.   
      
   >>He tried with another poster too. I   
   >>find Snit thouroughly reprehensible and believe he deserves any   
   >>discomfort I serve him. He absolutely thrives on this stuff! It stirs up   
   >>his pathetic and otherwise dull life.   
   >>   
   >>Your volley, Snit. Make it a good one this time.   
   >   
   >   
   > Hey, as an outside observer who is trying to limit his exposure to all   
   > the crap, without simultaneously removing potentially valuable and   
   > interesting commentary, I'd like to make a suggestion, if I may.   
   >   
   > I realize that I don't have the history here to comment authoritatively   
   > on this mess, but I think that at least Snit has attempted to move the   
   > crap out of here. Could I ask the people who feel compelled to address   
   > him, to at least do so in the otherwise dead flame group?   
      
   I know of one poster that might be interested who says he only can   
   access to that group through Google.   
      
   --   
   "You see, my invisible green dragon tells me that God is real, and is   
   even a pretty nice guy, but can not hold his liquor well."   
   - Snit (aka §¼¡Ý) on 4/27/04   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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