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   Montgomery BOO...URNS to Lucar   
   Re: AARGH! I must say it: The Mac sucks.   
   18 Oct 04 20:54:27   
   
   XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: solitude439@rcn.com   
      
   "Lucar"  wrote in message   
   news:cl0kv1$amh$1@news.dialog.net.pl...   
   > "Montgomery BOO...URNS"  wrote in message   
   > news:QLSdnSFNvcyxc-_cRVn-hQ@rcn.net...   
   >>   
   >> It's been hands down from the beginning that the Macintosh is far more   
   >> superior as far as ease-of-use, set up and go, stability, peace of mind   
   > (no   
   >> real security issues) and the user friendly graphical interface.   
   > Microsoft   
   >> still doesn't have it right to this day.  All they have is a pretty   
   > looking   
   >> operating system that is being shoved down everyone's throat with   
   >> neverending security issues that is eventually going to be Microsoft's   
   >> downfall!!   
   >>   
   > Wishful thinking... the actual quality of the product doesn't directly   
   > translate into its market success or failure, there's simply so many other   
   > factors involved!   
      
   And I'm still wondering now why people like you are posting to a Mac   
   Advocacy newsgroup?  Sure, they have a good market share - point taken!   
   K-Mart had a good market share in the 80's!!  Look where they are now??   
   Chapter 11 status and one of their spokepersons is in prison right now   
   (Martha Stewart)!  The reason why K-Mart lost their market share was because   
   of bad management and poor service and as well, they have a tendency to   
   relocate their merchandise every time you turn around.  This same thing is   
   going to happen with Microsoft.  It's so overblown now!! Anything gets as   
   big as Microsoft, eventually it will explode.  In this case, it's imploding!   
   Okay, maybe they'll have a better OS with Windows Longhorn but that's only   
   going to mean more security issues, software updates, spam, pop-ups and   
   adware crap that people are already getting sick of dealing with.   
      
   >   
   >> Have you been to any office supply store recently (i.e. Staples, Office   
   > Max,   
   >> Office Depot)?  Look at the area where they sell the Microsoft products,   
   >> particularly Windows... what do you see?  You see two or three areas   
   >> reserved for Windows and Microsoft Office, then you see a whole wall full   
   > of   
   >> Security programs, Norton Firewall, Norton Internet Security, Norton   
   > this...   
   >> Norton that... Spam Killer, McAfee Firewall, Pop up guards, Adware   
   > blockers,   
   >> spam blockers... it's totally friggin ridiculous and this is all because   
   >> Windows has become the PREMIERE operating system.  Everyone wants   
   >> Windows,   
   >> especially the people involved with internet attacks, adware campaigns,   
   > and   
   >> people with all the time on their hands to develop virus and trojans to   
   >> spread to everyone else who runs Windows.   
   >>   
   > You don't understand or ignore the fact that the main reason behind the   
   > alleged Mac OS immunity to all internet evil is its tiny market share. It   
   > is   
   > clear to anyone except blinded Mac zealots.   
      
   Which eventually is what Microsoft is going to see!  I'll admit, yes, I'm a   
   Mac Zealot and I'm proud of that!  I learned the best things about computing   
   on a Macintosh (i.e. Desktop Publishing, Graphics, MIDI and recording   
   applications).  When the Mac was at it's prime, the only thing I was using   
   the crappy DOS machines for was learning how to type!!  Windows was a crappy   
   DOS Shell at that point and it was very user-unfriendly!! Like I said, to   
   this day Microsoft still doesn't have it right!  Windows is better than it   
   was, but it's taking a turn and boy what fun it is to install Adaware,   
   Norton Utilities, Norton Firewall, Spybot Search & Destroy, Pop-up Blocker,   
   McAfee Anti-spam, McAfee Anti-Virus in a one horse open sleigh!! I keep   
   updating Windows from the Windows Update site, but that's not enough!!  I   
   have to install third party security software in a matter of a week after   
   the updates are installed because the issues I was trying to remedy are only   
   rearing their ugly heads again.   
      
   Anyway, to put my 2 cents against your market share argument... yes,   
   Microsoft has a substantial market share.  That's not necessarily based on   
   end-user involvement.  Most of Microsoft's software is bought up by   
   authorized dealers (AUTHORIZED, that's right, AUTHORIZED... this is a   
   license we're talking about, the dealers aren't buying the software itself   
   nor is the end-user)!  As for end-user involvement or the end-consumer   
   buying up Microsoft product, most of that could come across as cut and dry   
   as well... Microsoft comes out ahead!  But that's not necessarily how market   
   share numbers are tallied.  Microsoft sells their license to the companies   
   (the Staples, the Office Max, the Office Depot, the Wal-Marts, the Targets)   
   and this has more impact on the market share numbers than the end-consumer   
   involvement.   
      
   You can't buy a computer with Windows installed directly from Microsoft.   
   Why?  Because Microsoft doesn't sell computers or hardware.  They deal   
   solely with software.  You can buy a computer directly from Apple Computers   
   and they sell you the computer with their OWN BRAND of software installed.   
   This is also what makes them different from Microsoft because they're   
   selling you the whole package.  I've always had a bad taste in the back of   
   my mouth when it's told to me that Microsoft and Apple are the two big   
   competitors.  One deals solely with software and the other is a computer   
   company that happens to have their own operating system installed on their   
   brand of computers.   
      
   Macintosh has always had their S**T together.  They've had it right from the   
   beginning.  They only keep getting better and I hope to keep using Apple   
   Macintosh products for years to come.  Whatever happens to Microsoft is only   
   inevitable.  Eventually people are going to get sick of all the virii and   
   spam and adbots and all the other security crap going on that they'll either   
   terminate their computing all together or they'll be smart and use something   
   that's not going to bog them down with all of that crap!   
      
   Anyway, shouldn't there be a choice??   
   >   
   >> Bottom line... Windows sucks!!   
   >>   
   > Bottom line... that's how fanaticism is born.   
      
   I'm a Mac fanatic!!  Thus the reason why I'm on a Mac Advocacy newsgroup!   
   Read what I wrote above about learning everything I know on a Macintosh!   
      
   Best Regards   
   D.C.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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