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   XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: gmgraves@pacbell.net   
      
   In article ,   
    Chrisr  wrote:   
      
   > On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 06:09:58 GMT, George Graves    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   > >In article ,   
   > > Chrisr  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 00:05:44 -0400, Zaren Ankleweed   
   > >>  wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >> >In article   
   > >> >,   
   > >> > George Graves  wrote:   
   > >> >   
   > >> >> Agreed, but most of these Windroids don't offer an opposing view   
   > >> >   
   > >> >Sure they do...  but it's always the *same* opposing view - "Only one   
   > >> >button on your mouse?" "Where's the games?" "Why can't I upgrade a Mac   
   > >> >like I can upgrade my 'PC'?"   
   > >> >   
   > >> >It gets tiring after a while...   
   > >> Has it ever occurred to you that maybe they say this because they feel   
   > >> these things are very important to their computing experience.   
   > >   
   > >That's OK, but why come here and tell us about it. We don't care.   
   > >   
   >   
   > I thought that was what we were discussing.  You were saying why the   
   > same arguments over and over.   
   > >   
   > >> Apple's refusal to switch to a 2 button mouse is downright silly   
   > >> considering   
   > >> most people want them.   
   > >   
   > >That statement is downright silly. If most people want a two-button   
   > >mouse, let them purchase one. They are neither expensive nor difficult   
   > >to fit.   
   >   
   > Why not offer it as an option?   
      
   Why bother?   
      
   (1) "Single-button-mice-are-less-confusing-to-neophytes" is Apple   
   company policy and the OS is designed NOT to require a two button mouse.   
      
   (2) There are plenty of third-party sources for two, four, and even   
   8-button mice, as well as scroll wheels. Let them cater to those Mac   
   users who wish to run with multi-buttoned mice.   
      
     When I bought my emac, the first   
   > accessory I bought for it was a 2 button trackball, it would have been   
   > nice to have the option and not have to have the original sitting in   
   > the box.   
      
   Like that track ball was soooooo expensive. It must've broke you and   
   sent you to the poorhouse. The two-button mice that most PCs ship with   
   cost the computer companies about fifty-nine cents each and look and   
   feel like it too. Apple gives you a well-made optical mouse that will   
   probably last the lifetime of the computer. You want more buttons? Be   
   Apple's guest and buy one with more buttons. Heck, they even sell them   
   at the Apple stores.   
      
   > >> How much money could it possibly cost to add a   
   > >> second button to the mouse or at least offer it as an option, so that   
   > >> you don't have to run out and buy new mouse as soon as you get the   
   > >> machine.   
   > >   
   > >You don't have to run out and buy new mouse as soon as you get the   
   > >machine. There is nothing about Mac OSX that REQUIRES a 2-button mouse.   
   > >If you want one you can buy one, but you don't NEED one.   
   > >   
   >   
   > You do if that is what you want.   
      
   Then GO BUY IT. Why is this such a difficult concept?   
      
   > >> Furthermore it is easier to accomplish a lot of tasks with a   
   > >> two button mouse.   
   > >   
   > >Matter of opinion. I know lots of people who would disagree with you.   
      
   >   
   > One hand on the keyboard and one on the mouse is more awkward than a   
   > click of the second mouse button   
   > >> To me, it is much less awkward to click the second   
   > >> mouse button than to option-click.   
   > >   
   > >Thenb buy a 2-button mouse. Thefact that it's optional on the Mac seems   
   > >to confuse you Mac critics no end. I can't for the life of me figure why.   
      
   > I did.  I'm not really a mac critic, I'm very happy with my eMac.   
   > Overall it is a great little machine.  Price was great at $699   
   > (refurbed original model with no modem or cdrw).  It would have been   
   > nice to have a 2 button mouse out of the box, but at least 10 supports   
   > it with no drivers needed.   
      
   > >> If one-button mice were so great   
   > >> don't you think that the aftermarket mouse makers would make them?   
   > >   
   > >Because the single-button mouse that Apple ships is pretty good quality   
   > >and rarely needs replacing? Or that most Mac users NEVER buy another   
   > >mouse, single or multi-buttoned?   
      
   > >> The desire for system upgrades  is strong, even in the Mac community   
   > >   
   > >Conjecture on your part.   
      
   > >> as evidenced by the Mac upgrade aftermarket manufacturers.   
      
   > >There is some market for upgrades, yes, but it's likely not as large as   
   > >you think.   
      
   > Tell that to owc, who's other url is fastermacs.com   
      
   You notice that OWC sells other things than just processor upgrades.   
   They sell wireless, memory, etc. While memory can be looked upon as an   
   upgrade, I don't really consider it one because it's done by most people   
   because when you buy most Macs you HAVE to buy more memory if you want   
   run anything other than just the OS.   
      
   You complain that Apple offers only a single-button mouse when you   
   should be complaining that Apple is so niggardly with their supplied   
   memory, that they first thing that most people do, before even leaving   
   the store where they bought their machines, is to buy more memory. And   
   memory is more expensive than mice. That's what OWC sell the most of-   
   memory.   
      
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   George Graves   
      
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