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From: crex@.no-spam.bellatlantic.net
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:34:22 GMT, George Graves
wrote:
>
>Why bother?
>
>(1) "Single-button-mice-are-less-confusing-to-neophytes" is Apple
>company policy and the OS is designed NOT to require a two button mouse.
Who said anything about requiring a 2 button mouse? It's nice that OS
X supports the second button, why not offer the hardware? It's a
missed opportunity as far as I'm concerned. Second, you don't dumb
the computer down to the level of the most novice user. How long do
you figure it would take a user to get used to a second mouse button?
A day or two? Lets not forget either, that I'm not the one who
brought it up.
>
>(2) There are plenty of third-party sources for two, four, and even
>8-button mice, as well as scroll wheels. Let them cater to those Mac
>users who wish to run with multi-buttoned mice.
>
But it's aggrivation. When you are buying a new machine, you want to
get the whole thing at once from one vendor. It would also be nice to
have a two button mouse that matches the computer. Part of the appeal
of Mac's is that they are such nice looking machines. At the very
least, they should give you the option to remove the mouse and knock a
few bucks off the price of the machine.
> When I bought my emac, the first
>> accessory I bought for it was a 2 button trackball, it would have been
>> nice to have the option and not have to have the original sitting in
>> the box.
>
>Like that track ball was soooooo expensive. It must've broke you and
>sent you to the poorhouse.
It's $50 that apple could have got from me.
>The two-button mice that most PCs ship with
>cost the computer companies about fifty-nine cents each and look and
>feel like it too. Apple gives you a well-made optical mouse that will
>probably last the lifetime of the computer. You want more buttons? Be
>Apple's guest and buy one with more buttons. Heck, they even sell them
>at the Apple stores.
>
Then why not offer it as a replacement upgrade? A white (apple
branded) trackball would look so much better than the clear one I
have. Alright, maybe the trackball is going too far, but an emac
style 2 button mouse should have been an option for me.
>> >> How much money could it possibly cost to add a
>> >> second button to the mouse or at least offer it as an option, so that
>> >> you don't have to run out and buy new mouse as soon as you get the
>> >> machine.
>> >
>> >You don't have to run out and buy new mouse as soon as you get the
>> >machine. There is nothing about Mac OSX that REQUIRES a 2-button mouse.
>> >If you want one you can buy one, but you don't NEED one.
>> >
>>
>> You do if that is what you want.
>
>Then GO BUY IT. Why is this such a difficult concept?
>
I did. Apple should have offered me the option. Thats $50 they would
have got from me, and I'd have a matching mouse.
>> >> Furthermore it is easier to accomplish a lot of tasks with a
>> >> two button mouse.
>> >
>> >Matter of opinion. I know lots of people who would disagree with you.
>
>>
>> One hand on the keyboard and one on the mouse is more awkward than a
>> click of the second mouse button
>> >> To me, it is much less awkward to click the second
>> >> mouse button than to option-click.
>> >
>> >Thenb buy a 2-button mouse. Thefact that it's optional on the Mac seems
>> >to confuse you Mac critics no end. I can't for the life of me figure why.
>
>> I did. I'm not really a mac critic, I'm very happy with my eMac.
>> Overall it is a great little machine. Price was great at $699
>> (refurbed original model with no modem or cdrw). It would have been
>> nice to have a 2 button mouse out of the box, but at least 10 supports
>> it with no drivers needed.
>
>> >> If one-button mice were so great
>> >> don't you think that the aftermarket mouse makers would make them?
>> >
>> >Because the single-button mouse that Apple ships is pretty good quality
>> >and rarely needs replacing? Or that most Mac users NEVER buy another
>> >mouse, single or multi-buttoned?
>
>> >> The desire for system upgrades is strong, even in the Mac community
>> >
>> >Conjecture on your part.
>
>> >> as evidenced by the Mac upgrade aftermarket manufacturers.
>
>> >There is some market for upgrades, yes, but it's likely not as large as
>> >you think.
>
>> Tell that to owc, who's other url is fastermacs.com
>
>You notice that OWC sells other things than just processor upgrades.
>They sell wireless, memory, etc. While memory can be looked upon as an
>upgrade, I don't really consider it one because it's done by most people
>because when you buy most Macs you HAVE to buy more memory if you want
>run anything other than just the OS.
>
>You complain that Apple offers only a single-button mouse when you
>should be complaining that Apple is so niggardly with their supplied
>memory, that they first thing that most people do, before even leaving
>the store where they bought their machines, is to buy more memory. And
>memory is more expensive than mice. That's what OWC sell the most of-
>memory.
I would have to agree with you here, but it's not eithor-or, it's
both. Apple RAPES their customers with ram upgrades. My cousin
bought a 256mb upgrade with his emac and paid like $125. They tried
to rape him on cdrw's as well. I told him he was nuts but he did it
anyway. We stoped at comp-usa and they had a 512 that was comp with
the eMac and it was $69.
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Chris
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There's something you've forgotten,
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