XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.os.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system   
   XPost: comp.sys.macintrash   
   From: ilgaz_ocal@yahoo.com   
      
   On 2006-06-08 22:14:58 +0300, "Mike"  said:   
      
   >   
   > "Derek Currie"  wrote in message   
   > news:derekcurrie-F3E25A.15003108062006@syrcnyrdrs-01-ge0.nyroc.rr.com...   
   >> If one wanted to compare the malware on each OS by removing the   
   >> 'obscurity' factor, and if there were no other mitigating factors   
   >> involved in writing malware for one OS versus another, you should expect   
   >> the number of malware on a PER USER BASIS to be identical for both   
   >> operating systems. Clearly this is NOT the case.   
   >   
   > So, therefore, obscurity *is* a factor.   
   >   
   > I don't know what point you were trying to make, but I doubt that was it!   
   >   
   > Mike   
      
   I am still horrified about malware on OS X (if it ever ships!) because   
   of false sense of trust in majority of (non geek,generic) mac users.   
      
   That is a very dangerous thing. It means a coder (pro or amateur) will   
   have zero defense targets if he codes anything actually works (pro or   
   amateur reasons).   
      
   Spyware authors are enjoying new boot camp users, a userbase who are   
   rich, never had actual spyware problem so the "paranoia" is minimum   
   levels. Apple should bundle at least Clam Win32 with Boot Camp. (it is   
   50 mb!). Note I am speaking about people used only Mac since 1985 and   
   just booted windows first time in their life with boot camp. It is very   
   hard to convince such a user that a system without firewall in win32   
   world can be auto hacked in 2 min by some robot, become zombie sending   
   thousands of spam.   
      
   I am speaking about that false security. Especially after OS X has   
   pirated/hacked Intel versions now everywhere. The "white hat" people I   
   know already tested it, if they test it, black hats will of course.   
      
   With that horrible EULA granting them everything, DivX networks enjoy   
   record breaking downloads on OS X for example. Not saying it DOES   
   something evil, it CAN do and you can't sue them with that license you   
   accepted. I even risked my VT paid account and told people to CHECK   
   that horrible EULA before installing. Result: 1 of 4 users found   
   helpful :) They may enjoy their .CC pinging codec, whatever.   
      
      
   Ilgaz   
      
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