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   From: jtmckee@rmac.know-spam-bogus.net   
      
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    GreyCloud  wrote:   
      
   > Josh McKee wrote:   
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   > >>>>Josh McKee wrote:   
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   > >>>>>In article <9aydnfjKwY3O1hfZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@bresnan.com>,   
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   > >>>>>>Josh McKee wrote:   
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   > >>>>>>>>Josh McKee wrote:   
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   > >>>>>>>>>In article   
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   > >>>>>>>>>Derek Currie  wrote:   
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   > >>>>>>>>>>Below are a few personal thoughts, for whatever they are worth:   
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   > >>>>>>>>>>1) Windows is really is a far less secure operating system than   
   Mac.   
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   > >>>>>>>>>How much malware exists for Windows on the MIPS platform? The Alpha   
   > >>>>>>>>>platform?   
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   > >>>>>>>>Most likely that the hacker could recompile their viruses/malware for   
   > >>>>>>>>those platforms and the same results would happen.   
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   > >>>>>>>I didn't ask if it could be recompiled. I asked how much currently   
   > >>>>>>>exists. Still waiting for an answer.   
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   > >>>>>>I don't know of any vendors currently selling Windows on MIPS.   
   > >>>>>>There are no Windows on Alphas anymore. And on the Alphas, windows NT   
   > >>>>>>could   
   > >>>>>>not compete   
   > >>>>>>against Tru-64 UNIX or OpenVMS for Alphas.   
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   > >>>>>Irrelevant.   
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   > >>>>>>So the answer is no malware as there are no windows on both of said   
   > >>>>>>platforms.   
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   > >>>>>Are you saying that there is none? None at all? None for an OS you claim   
   > >>>>>is so weak in security? How can this be?   
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   > >>>>Because they don't exist.   
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   > >>>Why not? You do know that we're talking about Windows...right?   
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   > >>Yes, we're talking about windows.   
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   > > Then why can't you name a single piece of malware? Weren't you   
   > > championing the notion of how insecure windows is? Using > 100K pieces   
   > > of malware to support your assertion? Now you can't even give a single   
   > > example. Therefore, applying your "logic" Windows is just as secure as   
   > > OS X. Is this really what you're trying to say?   
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   > For windows malware:   
   > http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx   
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   > Looks pretty insecure to me.   
      
   Which doesn't apply to Windows on MIPS or Alpha.   
      
   > And M$ admits it and has software for removal of said non-existent malware.   
      
   But you said:   
      
   "Because they don't exist."   
      
   Are you now saying that they do exist?   
      
   Josh   
      
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