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   GreyCloud to Josh McKee   
   Re: Does Mac Malware Benefit From Obscur   
   13 Jun 06 23:01:00   
   
   XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.os.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system   
   XPost: comp.sys.macintrash   
   From: mist@cumulus.com   
      
   Josh McKee wrote:   
      
   > In article ,   
   >  GreyCloud  wrote:   
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   >>Josh McKee wrote:   
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   >>>In article ,   
   >>> GreyCloud  wrote:   
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   >>>>Josh McKee wrote:   
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   >>>>>In article ,   
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   >>>>>>Josh McKee wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>In article ,   
   >>>>>>>GreyCloud  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>Josh McKee wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>In article <9aydnfjKwY3O1hfZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@bresnan.com>,   
   >>>>>>>>>GreyCloud  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>Josh McKee wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>In article ,   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>Josh McKee wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>In article   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Derek Currie  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Below are a few personal thoughts, for whatever they are worth:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>1) Windows is really is a far less secure operating system than   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mac.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>How much malware exists for Windows on the MIPS platform? The   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Alpha   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>platform?   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>Most likely that the hacker could recompile their viruses/malware   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>those platforms and the same results would happen.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>I didn't ask if it could be recompiled. I asked how much currently   
   >>>>>>>>>>>exists. Still waiting for an answer.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>I don't know of any vendors currently selling Windows on MIPS.   
   >>>>>>>>>>There are no Windows on Alphas anymore. And on the Alphas, windows NT   
   >>>>>>>>>>could   
   >>>>>>>>>>not compete   
   >>>>>>>>>>against Tru-64 UNIX or OpenVMS for Alphas.   
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   >>>>>>>>>Irrelevant.   
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   >>>>>>>>>>So the answer is no malware as there are no windows on both of said   
   >>>>>>>>>>platforms.   
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   >>>>>>>>>Are you saying that there is none? None at all? None for an OS you   
   >>>>>>>>>claim   
   >>>>>>>>>is so weak in security? How can this be?   
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   >>>>>>>>Because they don't exist.   
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   >>>>>>>Why not? You do know that we're talking about Windows...right?   
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   >>>>>>Yes, we're talking about windows.   
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   >>>>>Then why can't you name a single piece of malware? Weren't you   
   >>>>>championing the notion of how insecure windows is? Using > 100K pieces   
   >>>>>of malware to support your assertion? Now you can't even give a single   
   >>>>>example. Therefore, applying your "logic" Windows is just as secure as   
   >>>>>OS X. Is this really what you're trying to say?   
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   >>>>For windows malware:   
   >>>>http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx   
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   >>>>Looks pretty insecure to me.   
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   >>>Which doesn't apply to Windows on MIPS or Alpha.   
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   >>No one runs MIPS or Alpha with windows.   
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   >   
   > So you're saying it's a market share thing? Thanks for finally waking up   
   > to reality!   
      
   Being clueless won't get you off the hook so easily.   
   No one sells MIPS or Alphas with windows on them.   
   So much for your strawmans argument.   
      
      
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