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   DeepThought to All   
   Re: Macintosh sucks   
   22 Sep 03 12:29:36   
   
   From: deep_42_thought@hotmailEARTH.com   
      
   Zaren Ankleweed whipped out his/her/its Personal Electronic Thing,   
   summoned a BellBot to   
   freaspeach-ABF4A0.21515021092003@news.itd.umich.edu , leaving   
   his/her/its contact info (freaspeach@mail.com) with the deskbot, and   
   proceeded to say:   
   > In article <4w%ab.1554$7W4.1340@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>, "DeepThought"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   > Okay, the headache I had all day is finally gone, so I feel up to   
   > responding to this.  For the sake of repitition, I'll try to steer   
   > clear of any topics I've touched on in the "Re: Mac Lover" thread, so   
   > this shouldn't take too long :)   
   >   
   >> I have seen you nitpick on this CONSTANTLY. Seriously, get a grip!   
   >> We use PCs to mean Windows machines, and Macs to mean Macs. Live   
   >> with it.   
   >   
   > Sorry, but that's one of my pet peeves, like calling pop soda, or   
   > calling a root beer a Coke.  Things have names, and they have them   
   > for a reason.  A PC is a personal computer, not just a Windows   
   > machine.  Do you call a RedHat   
   > box a Linux PC? How many times have you heard a machine with a little   
   > red demon inside called a BSD PC?  Call it my moment of zealotry. I'm   
   > pretty tolerant of most things Mac vs. Win-wise, but PC does not mean   
   > Windows :)   
      
   A apologize for my rudeness. I admit this was a jump to conclusions, and   
   (though this doesn't make up for it) I've had Pneumonia all week... After   
   talking to you I realize you're not a logic-free Mac user like some out   
   there...   
      
   I agree, Mac computers are "PCs" in the fact that they're personal   
   computers, but the abbreviation is normally used to represent Windows   
   machines, to avoid confusion.   
      
   > They're harsh to ensure that things work the way they're supposed to,   
   > every time.  Even silly stuff like menu options, like how on EVERY   
   > SINGLE app (those designed to follow Apple's human interface   
   > standards, at least) command-s is ALWAYS save, command-c is ALWAYS   
   > copy...  I can remember a time when I had four different apps running   
   > on a Windows machine, and every one   
   > of them used a different keyboard shortcut for the same command.   
   > Drove me nuts.  Ease of design and following standards is the way to   
   > go.   
      
   That's possibly for customization purposes... look in the menu. Is there a   
   way to change those commands? Or possibly made so commands don't overlap.   
      
   > Good thing all the Windows users I assisted working at my old   
   > university didn't have that attitude, there would have been a lot of   
   > machines still broken :)   
      
   Sorry, I was reading a VERY strong mac-favored article and I sort of lost   
   it...   
      
   > ??? mac.com is the main page for Apple's ".Mac" program; not sure   
   > what that has to do with the antiquated technology of floppies.   
      
   Yeah, that should be apple.com...   
      
   Anyway, floppies are still handy. I mean, if I have seven text documents,   
   what does Apple expect me to do... burn them to a CD-R? We finally had to   
   install a LAN at my old school just for the purpose of getting documents to   
   that iMac.   
      
   > I needed to remove the floppy so I could install a third hard drive.   
   > I tell ya, in the last year, I've needed to use a floppy drive all of   
   > once, and   
   > that was to get a zip file from someone who's computer didn't have   
   > Internet access.  If I need to move files around between computers at   
   > home, I either shuttle them around on the LAN, or upload them to an   
   > ftp site and then download them with the other machine.  That's still   
   > faster and more reliable than a floppy :)   
      
   Those are also good options, but using my example of my old school...   
   iMac+school papers+no internet+no floppy drive=...   
      
      
   > Then there's the fact that Apple used to ship software with the OS   
   > called "Mouse Keys", which allowed you to use your number pad as a   
   > mouse, so you didn't really need to have one installed.   
      
   Hmm... that actually sounds pretty cool... but how did you navigate to the   
   menu to activate the program without a mouse?   
      
   :)   
      
      
   > That's what progress is all about.  Some people don't like change.   
   > I'm one   
   > of them. I don't like how OS9 / OS X looks.  Some people love it.  I   
   > think it's farily hideous; bad on the eyes, violates tons of their   
   > old UI guidelines, including the ones that made Macs friendly for the   
   > color   
   > blind...  but it still looks better than that dried paint blob   
   > interface for XP >^p   
      
   Heh... I was against the interface for XP too, but then I actually bought it   
   (with the intention to change to the old WinME toolbar).... and I actually   
   quite like it. Sort of a "it grows on you" kind of thing.   
      
   > And how the hell do you just get to the hard drive in XP? I tried to   
   > find it on my sister's machine, and gave up out of frustration.  Of   
   > course, she may have had it in some kid-safe mode so they couldn't   
   > access the whole machine, I don't know.   
      
   You mean the standard HD? My Computer/DriveName (C drive, usually). "My   
   Computer" lists the HDs, CD drives, USB addons (camera, etc)... all there in   
   one place. A double click on the drive will take you inside it... which I   
   find funny because the whole OS is on the drive, so you're already in it....   
      
   :)   
      
   > See the latest batch of mail viruses written specifically for Windows   
   > where you don't even need to look at the attached payload for it to   
   > install itself on your system.   
      
   True, Windows viruses are more plentiful than Mac viruses... but that's   
   because the mac is so hard to program for, even if you get PAID, people just   
   give up on doing it for free...   
      
   )   
      
   > Yep, more secure, user friendly, not gonna eat your machine whole if   
   > you   
   > look at a file funny crap :)   
      
   What about when you're updating a system file? If you're scrolling through   
   to find the one you need to replace, and you accidentally click it, you   
   rename it nothing... and the system crashes.   
      
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