XPost: misc.health.alternative, alt.psychology   
   From: markprobert@lumbercartel.com   
      
   Day Brown wrote:   
   > I'm not suggesting that the whole treatment program with autistic kids   
   > gets changed. I am suggesting that we do the same as we would with any   
   > other clinical condition, establish trials with randomly assigned   
   > subjects.   
      
   Just because you do not know of trials, studies, etc. it does not mean   
   that they have not been done or are not being done.   
      
   > There are many parents of autistic kids who are not convinced that   
   > drugs are the way to go.   
   > There are innumerable studies to show that physical pain and sex cause   
   > dramatic changes in brain chemistry, altho it'd be wise to establish a   
   > base line of what the biochemistry of the brain and limbic system are   
   > to start with.   
   >   
   > It mite be useful to begin trials at Malta, where the age of consent   
   > is 12. This would preclude legal difficulties.   
   > Your charge of my erotic interest is asinine and detracts from your   
   > own scientific dispassion on this issue, not that I'm surprised. Any   
   > professional in the field would have to be very careful of what he   
   > posted in a public forum. Had you not characterized my proposal in   
   > this way, and any collegues found out, it'd make trouble for you.   
   >   
   > I have not at all implied that I would be personally involved in any   
   > of this. Whether  a boy or girl, either way, an assessment needs to be   
   > made of all the hormones, not just the sexual ones, but certainly   
   > including them. I've seen anthro video of 4 or 5 year old kids mimic   
   > the adults by trying to have sex in the long house. The adults around   
   > pay it no attention what ever. The girl is not going to get pregnant,   
   > and if you asked about "virginity" they dont have a word for it. I   
   > dont see that these people grow up to be sexual predators, exploiters,   
   > whores, or neurotics. Course, they are not Christian either.   
   >   
   > When that Cuban grandmother masturbated her grandson in Miami, people   
   > were just appalled. but that kind of thing has always been done in   
   > other cultures. Are the Cubans less civilized? No, pain and pleasure   
   > have always been used to modify behavior, and your profession has the   
   > hubris to say that thousands of generations of hominid evolution using   
   > it is wrong. Agreed that if the adults themselves are not self-   
   > controlled it leads to abuse. But in these other traditions, these   
   > activities were carried out with others watching the interaction.   
   >   
   > What goes on in the privacy of a shrink's office?   
   >   
      
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