XPost: sci.psychology.psychotherapy, alt.psychology, sci.psychology   
   From: equsphotogphr@hotmail.com   
      
   dank wrote:   
   >   
   > Hoofprints wrote...   
   > > So IMHO, even if the CT. were to 'film the child and the therapist' who   
   > > is attempting to 'elicit' the response, the groundwork for this type of   
   > > lawsuit can be laid _well in advance_ through the home environment and   
   > > training techniques.   
   > > The 'child' who wants to 'please' the parent and get a 'reward', will   
   > > indicate exactly where the other parent showed them to point.   
   >   
   > McMartin was an example of false memories being implanted in children,   
   > but often it is adults who are victims of this technique, and the   
   > "recovered" memories are of being abused as a child.   
   >   
   > I remember reading something about several experiments on how the   
   > false memory technique works.  Apparently it is difficult to implant   
   > a truly false memory, so an existing memory is isolated and then   
   > suggestive questioning fills in details that never occurred.  One   
   > subject was able to remember posing for a photo with Bugs Bunny at   
   > Disneyland, while another subject had an innocent childhood memory   
   > of taking a bath with a rubber ducky and had it modified so that   
   > she remembered being molested by her father (which she knew was   
   > false, but still found it deeply disturbing).  I assume the same   
   > technique is used on "alien abduction" victims.   
      
   It is still behavior shaping because they isolated a memory which the   
   person may have felt guilty about and then embellished that memory using   
   the suggestive questions. If it was a memory that an adult most likely   
   wouldn't remember in great detail because it wasn't a traumatic event,   
   and the person is easily persuaded through their emotions, drugs,   
   alcohol or other [like complete trust in the person asking the question]   
   it is easy to get them to state xyz.   
   I think the Moonies used to use this stuff back in the 70's in order for   
   Rev. Moon to get homeless misdirected persons off the street and into   
   his compound.  Deprogrammers used to go into these compounds and kidnap   
   the adult person and then use the same technique to get them to return   
   to their families.   
   It's a screwed up world these days and people take advantage.  I guess   
   today it is called an Intervention which is a return to family value   
   systems.  Some people can't seem to understand that if someone tells   
   them they don't want to talk about something and they mean they don't   
   want to talk about something.  That reason is acceptable to me, but for   
   some reason some persons can't just tell the other person no, without a   
   full explanation.  Lots of past baggage gets taken out of context if you   
   say nothing and no one can accept a simple:   
   "I have my reasons for not doing xyz".   
   It's damned if you do and damned if you don't.   
      
   >   
   > Finally, as DNA evidence clears so many prison and death row inmates,   
   > it could be possible that their confessions weren't extracted through   
   > physical torture, but rather that they were brainwashed to remember   
   > details that police interrogators suggested.   
      
   At one time I was against DNA being used as evidence, but as there are   
   so many ways for overzealous authority figures to abuse the system and   
   people it is one the best ways to clear the falsely accused of many   
   crimes.   
   Then again, OJ got off and for some reason decided to write a book about   
   how "If He Did It".   
   He can't be tried again for the same crime so if the book was a   
   confession was it to easy his guilty conscious or just greed to make   
   money and thumb his nose at the system?   
      
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