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   XPost: alt.religion.scientology, alt.suicide.methods, alt.suicide.holiday   
   XPost: sci.med.psychobiology   
   From: jeffrey.latham@gmail.com   
      
   Pixie wrote:   
   > Really? Is that why psychiatrists give psychotic people   
   > antipsychotics? because it doesnt alter their thought processes? what   
   > is it meant to do then?   
      
   We're discussing antidepressants, dipshit. Stop trying to change the   
   subject due to the fact that you are an obvious moron.   
      
   Pixie wrote:   
   >> nor do they alter behavior   
   >> processes.   
   >   
   > ditto, for the antipsychotics, and what would be the point of giving   
   > someone antidepressants if they still stayed in bed all day too   
   > depressed to get out of bed? they give people these drugs to change   
   > your behaviour. why would they give prozac to someone with a bulimia   
   > if they simply kept puking still? of course its meant to alter your   
   > behaviour. why do they give ritalin to kids with adhd if they still   
   > ran around like nut baskets?   
      
   My point is thus: A person on antidepressants still have the choice to   
   stay in bed all day. A person on Ritalin still has the choice to run   
   around like nut baskets. That behavior is, indeed, a choice behavior.   
   Medication only serves to make that choice a possibility.   
      
   Pixie wrote:   
   > I am a lot closer than you are, but forgetting who has more scientific   
   > qualifications, which i am sure is no contest, it is common sense.   
      
   Actually, you've proven yourself as an illogical and irrational moron   
   time and time again. But I'll let you have your fantasy. I'm sure you   
   can discuss it with your psychiatrist later on. "Someone was mean to me   
   on the internet!"   
      
   Pixie wrote:   
   > Black box warning:   
   > WARNING   
   > "Suicidality and Antidepressant Drugs — Antidepressants increased the   
   > risk compared to   
   > placebo of suicidal thinking and behavior (suicidality) in children,   
   > adolescents, and young   
   > adults in short-term studies of major depressive disorder (MDD) and   
   > other psychiatric   
   > disorders."   
      
   Antidepressants are shown to increase thoughts of suicide in people who   
   already have such thoughts. But suicide is, and ultimately remains, a   
   choice behavior. No antidepressant can *force* a person to kill himself,   
   which is the argument it seems you try to make. Nor can any   
   antidepressant *force* a person to turn into a homicidal maniac (and   
   there is no evidence that it even has the ability to influence such   
   behavior in the first place)   
      
   Pixie wrote:   
   > "All patients being treated with antidepressants for any indication   
   > should be monitored appropriately and observed closely   
      
   This is worth highlighting. I am surprised that you would dare quote   
   something which expressly states that people on antidepressants should   
   have medical supervision, given your irrational hatred of psychiatrists,   
   psychologists, and general practitioners.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)