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   Message 157 of 2,131   
   Mike Wilcox to Ninth Commandment   
   Re: how much of God do you want?   
   19 Feb 05 13:29:53   
   
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   Ninth Commandment wrote:   
      
   > On 19 Feb 2005 07:57:02 -0800, "Jim"  wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   >>Sh'ma Yisrael wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>How much do you have?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>Always gotta appreciate a mind that can stay on track.   
   >>   
   >>There are places, you know, that claim to offer God's Presence to the   
   >>general public.  They have signs out front that say things like, "Come   
   >>and Experience the Presence of God This Sunday!"   
   >>   
   >>But I have always found that the Lord is wherever you recognize your   
   >>need of Him and are willing to meet Him.  He seems always to be there   
   >>before I get there, and to remain there even after I have gone.  This   
   >>has been true for me out in the desert, or by the ocean, in the deepest   
   >>woods, up in the mountains, down in the valleys, and out on the rolling   
   >>green prairies.  Just as true in the inner city as out in rural areas.   
   >>Just as true at midnight as in the welcome light of early morning.   
   >>   
   >>And I'm not saying that it isn't good to be gathered with others when   
   >>worshiping the Lord.  I nearly always appreciate being among hundreds,   
   >>or even thousands, when singing the praises of the Lord Jesus.  But the   
   >>Presence of God is never limited to a building, a time of the day, or a   
   >>special day of the week.   
   >>   
   >>So I sometimes wonder exactly what is meant by those who advertise   
   >>God's Presence.  One group near me recently advertised that to attend   
   >>their meetings was to experience a relationship with God.  And I really   
   >>do believe that they meant well.  I'm sure they are simply saying that   
   >>it would be good to go to church this Sunday.   
   >>   
   >>But I wonder if maybe we don't go too far, at times, in trying to get   
   >>people over to our place of worship?  No mortal man or group of people   
   >>can claim to function as a spiritual "filling station" for the Spirit   
   >>and Presence of God in other people's lives.  Yet I think that too many   
   >>are doing exactly that.   
   >>   
   >>What any person has with God (and of God) is a matter decided between   
   >>that individual and the Lord alone.  I certainly cannot give you more   
   >>of a relationship with God than you already have or want.  And you   
   >>cannot sell more of God's blessing to the next fellow.  Nor can any   
   >>mortal rightly claim to offer either of us more of God than we already   
   >>have and want.   
   >>   
   >>God is with us all, to the extent that we will have Him.  He is not   
   >>diminished by our lack of faith, our refusal to obey and trust in   
   >>Jesus.  But we close down our hearts to the light and life and laughter   
   >>of God when we resist His good Spirit, when we reject His assurances to   
   >>help, and when we refuse to listen to Him or learn from Him.   
   >>   
   >>Like Isaiah preached, long ago, "Ho, everyone who thirsts, come to the   
   >>waters; and you that have no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine   
   >>and milk without money and without price.  Why do you spend your money   
   >>for that which is not bread, and your labor for that which does not   
   >>satisfy?  Listen carefully to me, and eat what is good, and delight   
   >>yourselves in rich food."  (Isaiah 55:1,2)   
   >>   
   >>We all need Jesus.  And Jesus is here for all of us, having already   
   >>died on the cross for our sins -- for all sin.  But each human soul   
   >>remains as far away from God as they like, or draws as near to the Lord   
   >>as they wish to be.   
   >>   
   >>The light is already in the world, through the gospel, by the Holy   
   >>Spirit, and through the witness of the church (such as that may be).   
   >>The truth is right here among us in the message that God has given.   
   >>And we will either open our hearts to Him, inviting Him in, or we will   
   >>try to go the whole way alone, on our own, refusing all the help, the   
   >>wisdom, and the power God offers.   
   >>   
   >>May we all be wise enough to simply open our eyes to the glorious light   
   >>of God's Presence and blessing and truth.  May we all learn from the   
   >>Father and submit to the Lord Jesus Christ for eternal life and god's   
   >>richest blessings.  Amen and amen.   
   >>   
   >>Jim   
   >   
   >   
   > Selah and have a good weekend.   
   >   
      
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