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   Thetaworks to All   
   A Cluster of Veterans' Deaths   
   13 Sep 08 10:10:12   
   
   XPost: alt.society.mental-health, alt.psychology.personality   
   From: pjbrass@uswest.net   
      
   A Cluster of Veterans' Deaths; By Fred A. Baughman Jr., MD   
      
   EL CAJON, Calif., June 20 CA-Dr.-Baughman-Vets   
      
   EL CAJON, Calif., June 20 /PRNewswire/ -- Recently four   
   Charleston,WV-area veterans -- Derek Johnson, 22, Andrew White, 23,   
   Eric Layne, 29, and Nicholas Endicott, with "Post Traumatic Stress   
   Disorder" (PTSD), treated with the Paxil, Klonopin, and Seroquel --   
   died in their sleep. All were said to be in good health. (Julie   
   Robinson, Charleston Gazette, May 24, 2008).   
      
      
   In a democracy, we have a right to "informed consent." Physicians have   
   a legal obligation to tell us the facts regarding (1) diagnosis and   
   (2)treatment. Regarding diagnosis: Is there a disease or isn't there?   
   Whichdisease? If there is no disease, that leaves emotional or   
   psychological. Regarding treatment, physicians have a duty to tell us   
   the facts, about allavailable treatments, not just the treatment they   
   prefer. The choice is ours.This is informed consent.   
      
      
   Were these veterans and their families told by their psychiatrists   
   that PTSD, bipolar disorder, clinical depression and other mythical   
   psychiatric "diagnoses" are "disorders," "diseases," or "chemical   
   imbalances" of the brain? Were these the reasons, according to their   
   psychiatrists, that they needed psychiatric drugs? If they were told   
   this to gain their "informed consent" to treat, then they were lied   
   to, and their right to informed consent was denied.   
      
      
   In fact, there is no such thing in the annals of medicine as a   
   psychiatric disease. In 1948 neurology and psychiatry were made into   
   separate specialties-- neurology to deal with actual diseases, such as   
   multiple sclerosis, brain tumors, epilepsy, etc. -- and psychiatry to   
   deal with emotional and behavioral problems, none actual medical   
   diseases. By definition, the terms "disorder"and "disease" mean an   
   objective physical abnormality is present. Never the case in   
   psychiatry. And yet it is standard practice in psychiatry today, to   
   tell patients they have "chemical imbalances" of the brain; "chemical   
   imbalances" needing "chemical balancers" -- pills. In the DSM-IV, of   
   the American Psychiatric Association (Introduction, page xxi,   
   Definition of Mental Disorder), we read: "Although this volume is   
   titled the Diagnostic andStatistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the   
   term mental disorder unfortunately implies a distinction between   
   'mental' disorders and 'physical' disorders that is a reductionistic   
   anachronism of mind/body dualism. A compelling literature documents   
   that there is much 'physical' in 'mental' disorders and much 'mental'   
   in 'physical' disorders." Here, the APA, unabashedly claims that   
   psychiatric diagnoses are as much diseases as those in all other   
   medical specialties. Saying a "compelling literature" makes it so,   
   they reference nota single proof in the medical-scientific literature,   
   making a single psychiatric entity an actual disease.   
      
   Because psychiatric diagnoses are not actual diseases, they must be   
   psychological or psychiatric, not medical. This means they could not   
   cause physical complications including death.   
      
   On the other hand, all drugs, even penicillin, are exogenous   
   chemicals,and are poisons. The pivotal question in medicine is: Are   
   they more helpful than harmful? Of the drugs the four veterans were   
   on, the antipsychotic,Seroquel, is the most toxic. All antipsychotics   
   carry this ominous black box warning: "Elderly patients with   
   dementia-related psychosis are at an increased risk of death."   
   "Warnings/Precautions" include: "neuroleptic-malignant syndrome"   
   (usually fatal), "tardive dyskinesia" (permanent, grotesque,movements   
   of the face, tongue, head, neck and body), "cerebrovascular   
   events""cardiovascular events," "diabetes," "obesity," "gynecomastia"   
   (male breastdevelopment needing mastectomy), "suicidal tendencies,"   
   "impaired temperaturecontrol," "dysphagia" (trouble swallowing),   
   "aspiration pneumonia," and"death." Nor are the other two drugs --   
   Paxil and Klonopin without their own long lists of side effects. The   
   more drugs given simultaneously, the less the science and the greater   
   the risks of injury and death. Only in psychiatry do patients end up   
   with multiple "diagnoses" (none of them diseases), on multiple drugs.   
   "I want to know the cause of death," said Ray Johnson, Derek Johnson's   
   father. "Stacie said he was fine. Everything was normal. He kissed her   
   goodnight and went to sleep." All that is certain, is he never woke   
   up.   
      
   Because there is no such thing as a psychiatric disease, none of the   
   veterans mentioned in this article could possibly have died from a   
   psychiatric "disease." By process of elimination, it can be assumed   
   that they may have died from their drugs; from their "treatments" for   
   diseases that do not exist.   
      
   Their loved ones should begin their painful quest for justice by   
   writing the president of the APA, Dr. Carolyn Robinowitz, (American   
   PsychiatricAssociation, 1000 Wilson Boulevard, Suite 1825, Arlington,   
   VA 22209) and, to the current director of the National Institute of   
   Mental Health, Dr. Thomas Insel, (National Institute of Mental Health   
   (NIMH), 6001 Executive Boulevard, Room 8184, MSC 9663, Bethesda, MD   
   20892-9663) and ask them for proof that PTSD or any of their   
   psychiatric diagnoses or "disorders" are actual diseases, having, as   
   they must a confirming, objective, physical abnormality, gross   
   (visible to the naked eye), microscopic -- as in a Pap smear or   
   biopsy, or,chemical -- as in the chemical abnormalities of diabetes,   
   galactosemia, gout or phenyketonuria. I suggest they do this now,   
   copying their US Representative, their own US Senator, Jay   
   Rockefeller, D-WV, and Senator Charles Grassley, R-IA.   
      
   *Fred A. Baughman Jr., MD, has discovered and described real diseases.   
   He assumes full responsibility for all statements herein.   
      
    Fred A. Baughman Jr., MD   
    fredbaughmanmd@cox.net   
    1303 HIDDEN MOUNTAIN DRIVE   
    EL CAJON, CA 92019   
    Tele: (619) 440-8236   
    Fax: (619) 442-1932   
   SOURCE Fred A. Baughman Jr., MD   
      
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