XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, misc.rural, alt.agnosticism   
   XPost: alt.philosophy   
      
   On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 Goo wrote:   
      
   >On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:48:35 -0200, dh@. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 Goo wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>Fuckwit David Harrison - Goo, to one and all - continually lies about   
   >>>"considering" and "appreciating" that farm animals "get to experience   
   >>>life."  He mock-piously insists that this is a "benefit" for them, that   
   >>>they "get something out of the arrangement."   
   >>>   
   >>>There are two fatal defects in this claim.  First of all, it's illogical   
   >>>nonsense.  The animals do not "benefit" from coming into existence, no   
   >>>matter what level of welfare they experience during their lives.  A   
   >>>high-welfare life is not a "benefit" compared with never existing.  No   
   >>>animal is "better off" as a result of existing, versus never existing.   
   >>>This is obvious.   
   >>   
   >>    Tell us how you think "He" is preventing you   
   >   
   >No "He" or "Him"   
      
       Try explaining without referring to "Him" then Goober.   
      
   >from benefitting from your existence Goo. Go:   
   >   
   >No entity "benefits" from its existence   
      
       Try explaining why you think that is without referring to "Them"   
   then Goober. You can't even make the attempt, Goo.   
      
   >>>It's even obvious to GooFuckwit Harrison,   
   >>   
   >>    Not yet Goober but now would be an excellent time to explain   
   >>how you think "He" is keeping you down so you can make it   
   >>obvious to everyone. Go:   
   >   
   >Yes, it's obvious even to you   
      
       Try explaining it Goober. Go:   
      
   (Correct prediction: Goo can't even make an attempt.)   
      
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