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   Message 556 of 2,131   
   dh@. to Goo   
   Re: Dogs, mirrors, self awareness...   
   18 Sep 05 12:02:13   
   
   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.psychology, rec.pets.dogs.behavior   
   XPost: alt.animals.dog   
      
   On Fri, 16 Sep 2005  Goo wrote:   
      
   >dh wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005  Goo wrote:   
      
   >>>The likeliest one, Fuckwit, particularly when you   
   >>>understand *all* of the aspects of self awareness that   
   >>>"philosophers of mind" are talking about.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>    Explain or at least list them *all* you poor pathetic   
   >>Goober, or we'll again have proof that you have no   
   >>idea what you're trying to talk about.   
   >   
   >What the fuck do you mean, "all", Fuckwit?   
      
       You are the Goober who mentioned "*all*" Goo, so you   
   need to explain what the fuck you meant by it.   
      
   >You just   
   >revealed, yet again, that you not only don't know what   
   >youre talking about, but you don't even know the right   
   >questions to ask.   
      
       Asking you to explain anything is a waste of time, as   
   your cowardice posts continue prove.   
      
   >Philosophers of mind are not in   
   >unanimous agreement on what they are, you stupid fuck,   
   >so there *can not* be an "all".   
      
       So we now have yet another example of how incredibly   
   stupid you are.   
      
   >Here are *some*, Fuckwit, and they indicate that again,   
   >you are grossly over your head.   
   >   
   >- being aware that one is a being separate from others,   
   >   *and* from the rest of the environment   
      
       They are.   
      
   >- being aware, as a direct implication of one's own   
   >   self awareness, that *others* are self aware   
      
       No Goober, you poor idiot, that would not be self   
   aware, it would be being aware: that *others* are self   
   aware. It's incredible that you're too stupid to figure that   
   out for yourself.   
      
   >- knowing that one has a beginning and an end   
      
       No Goober, that would not be self aware, it would be   
   knowing that one has a beginning and an end. It's   
   incredible that you're too stupid to figure that out for   
   yourself too, Goo.   
      
   >- knowing that one exists at a particular place and time,   
      
       No again Goo. That would be having a concept of   
   place and time, which is in no way necessary in order   
   to have a concept of self. It really is hard to believe   
   you're as stupid as you insist that you are...but as   
   always I must consider that you really might be since   
   you keep on insisting...   
      
   >   which *necessarily* implies that there are other   
   >   places and times in which the self aware being does   
   >   *not* exist   
   >   
   >   
   >At the very best, Fuckwit, you stupid unaware log, dogs   
   >could conceivably meet the first;   
      
       I can't believe you could understand even that much   
   Goo. All evidence so far suggests that you're just too   
   stupid.   
      
   >but there is no   
   >evidence they do,   
      
       LOL! Yes Goober, that's the sort of evidence that   
   suggests you're too stupid.   
      
   >and people like you who just   
   >stubbornly insist they do have no evidence to support   
   >the belief, only your own wishful thinking.   
   >   
   >Dogs clearly do not have the next three.   
      
       Whether they do or not doesn't have anything to   
   do with whether or not they have some concepts of   
   themselves Goo, you poor stupid fool.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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