XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.animals.dog, rec.pets.dogs.behavior   
   From: someguy@ph.con   
      
   moonstruck lunatic lied:   
   > Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >   
   >>moonstruck lunatic lied:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>moonstruck lunatic lied:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>The behaviour must still be triggered by something.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>So what?  That doesn't in any way mean the animal has a meta-awareness   
   >>>>>>>>of its sense of smell, nor of the sense the stimulation of which   
   >>>>>>>>triggered the dog to go sniff.  I walk into a room; a dog sees me, or   
   >>>>>>>>hears me and then sees me, and comes over and sniffs me.  None of those   
   >>>>>>>>stimulus/response combinations mean the dog has a meta-awareness of any   
   >>>>>>>>of them.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>So you don't know why a dog might continue sniffing even though it has   
   >>>>>>>lost it's sense of smell?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>It doesn't make any difference why it might.  I believe   
   >>>>>>it will continue, and a part of the reason is because   
   >>>>>>it has no awareness of its sense of smell.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Then the answer to your question of "Why is your basis any better than   
   >>>>>mine for my belief [that "if you destroyed the olfactory nerves in a   
   >>>>>dog, it would continue to attempt to sniff at things in order to learn   
   >>>>>about them"]?", is because I actually provide reasoning.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Bullshit.  You didn't provide any reasoning at all.   
   >>>>You asked a few bullshit timewasting questions.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>Wow, your imagination is incredibly vivid!   
   >>   
   >>No, you didn't provide any explanation; just   
   >>dishonestly motivated sophistry.   
   >>   
   >>Fuck off.   
   >   
   >   
   > Yeah,   
      
   Yeah.  Fuck off.  Take your bullshit community college   
   sophistry with you.   
      
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