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   From: jamdrew@sksck.org   
      
   From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:   
   Stuart hydernan hyderman stuart   
      
   Rick Morris  wrote in message   
   news:C0779CA1.E120%wmorris@neb.rr.com...   
   > Bizarre logic to say the least. To an extent, all things are natural as   
   they   
   > come from nature or are make by beings of nature.   
   >   
   > Now, for example, penicillin doesn't just jump off mold and into a bottle.   
   > The discovery is one thing, but the manufacture is another. Production of   
   > penicillin did not increase a hundredfold between 1943 and 1945 because of   
   a   
   > rainy season. And insulin. It used to come from pork and beef pancreases   
   yet   
   > now human insulin is produced by bacteria using recombinant DNA   
   technology.   
   > This just jumped up and happened?  Discoveries of all sorts are accidents   
   > Kathleen. Recognizing that accidental discovery and visualizing how it can   
   > be utilized are real tasks. If there had been no drug companies, people   
   > would die of bacterial infections and diabetes each day at alarming rates.   
   > You are being too black and white on this.   
   >   
   > Maybe the problem is you have a unique definition of what a drug is. Maybe   
   > you can share that with us. However, the overwhelming majority of the   
   world   
   > consider these "accidents" and "natural substances" as drugs. Even   
   > phenothiazines which you seem to feel are not drugs at all, despite their   
   > frequent use with great success in treating nausea in post-surgery   
   patients   
   > and people with life-threatening nausea and vomiting.   
   >   
   > What does a chemical substance have to possess to be a drug in your mind??   
   > Not that it matters as most of the world will continue to use the common   
   > definitions and not worry to much about isolated and personal crusades.   
   >   
   > Oh, by the way. I can find a lot wrong with Big Pharma, most of which is   
   the   
   > way they price helpful medications out of the range of working class   
   > Americans.   
   >   
   >   
   > On 4/28/06 7:59 AM, in article   
   > 1146229193.384085.9980@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, "Newsgroup Leader   
   > Kathleen ActionLyme"  wrote:   
   >   
   > > Viagra- accident   
   > > Penicillin- accident   
   > > Phenothiazines- accident/mistake/not drugs   
   > > Lithium- natural salt.  Is actually neuroprotective and the only   
   > > psychotropic that is.   
   > > Insulin- natural product, (synthetic hormones)   
   > > Aspirin- natural product   
   > > cancer chemotherapeutics - many are natural alkaloids.   
   > > Cocaine   
   > > Caffeine   
   > > Opium, morphine, narcotics...   
   > >   
   > > You get the idea.  There are few real drugs.   
   > > Most are derivatives of a natural compound and were   
   > > discovered by accident.  The rest are no-exercise treating   
   > > "drugs."   
   > >   
   > > Be not impressed with BigPharma.   
   > >   
   > > Kathleen   
   > > http://actionlyme.org   
   >   
      
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