From: ctbishop@earthlink.net   
      
   In article , Bill Gill    
   wrote:   
      
   > On 9/12/2015 1:07 PM, Charles Bishop wrote:   
   > > In article , Bill Gill    
   > > wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> On 9/11/2015 9:24 AM, Charles Bishop wrote:   
   > >>> In article ,   
   > >>>    danny burstein  wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>> In  David Scheidt    
   > >>>> writes:   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>> Such scams happen from time to time in the US.  A number of   
   > >>>>> municipally owned parking lots in Chicago have signs that say   
   > >>>>> something to the effect of "put your money in the ticket machine,   
   > >>>>> anyone asking for it is scamming", and a friend had his car towed from   
   > >>>>> a lot where he'd paid to park while attending a concert.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Not always a complete scam.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> In NYC, for example, there are municpal parking lots where   
   > >>>> you can pay the meter for an hour.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> One of which I frequently used.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> There would be people there who'd, for an extra dollar   
   > >>>> a hit, would re-feed the meter for you so you could   
   > >>>> stay in the lot longer.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> - every so often the city would put an actual traffic   
   > >>>> agent there and ticket you if your car was there   
   > >>>> longer than the hour even if the meter was reset.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> - under NYC rules you're supposed to move when the   
   > >>>> time is up and refeeding the meter doesn't clear you.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> It's the same for the parking meters on the street in LA, CA, as well.   
   > >>>   
   > >> That's pretty standard.  One of the ideas behind having parking   
   > >> meters isn't just to make money for the city*.  It is to keep   
   > >> people from taking up the parking all day.  That way people can   
   > >> park to get to their shopping or whatever.   
   > >>   
   > >> *Money for the city doesn't hurt the powers that be.   
   > >   
   > > I seem to remember that back in the day(TM) longer parking wasn't as   
   > > much of a concern. Or, that is, no so much of a concern that I heard   
   > > about it as much as I do now. It was a given that someone could use a   
   > > meter as a long term parking space as long as they fed the meter.   
   > >   
   > > Now, though there are warning signs on the street or on the meters   
   > > themselves. I assume this is at the behest of the merchants who see more   
   > > shopping if there is more turnover, and they don't care of nearby office   
   > > workers have to park elsewhere. This policy is also likely to be good   
   > > for the PTB as well, with an increase in fines for those that park too   
   > > long.   
   > >   
   > Actually the original parking meters were invented in Oklahoma City,   
   > OK to discourage long term parking.  Here in Oklahoma we   
   > hear about that bit of history every once in a while.  Of course that   
   > was back in the day when almost all shopping was done in the   
   > downtown area.   
   >   
   > I'm not sure how it came about that you could keep feeding the meter   
   > and not get a ticket.  I guess they just checked to see if the meter   
   > was expired.  After a while they got smart and started carrying the   
   > chalk to mark the tires.  Now they have gotten even smarter.  Here   
   > in Tulsa they have just put in new parking meters in the Brady Arts   
   > District.  They are electronic.  You park and go to the nearest   
   > meter.  When you pay you enter your license tag number.  They check   
   > on the time you have been parked by seeing the time charged against   
   > your tag number.   
      
   There are also meters that can tell if someone has moved the car out of   
   the space, and the meter resets so that an incoming car doesn't get the   
   remaining time left on the meter.   
      
   In SF, they are removing some spaces from the "parking" business and   
   making mini-parks, with a bit of sod and a tree or bush or two. This is   
   to increase the "ambiance" of the street.   
      
   SF does have some decent streets for walking and shopping. I've not been   
   in LA (whatever that means) long enough to discover if there are similar   
   measures being taken.   
      
   One small bit - LA has taken to painting the lines that denote a bicycle   
   lane green. The movie Cos are upset because, in color film, they show up   
   green (natch) which means that LA can't be a stand-in for X city,   
   somewhere in the world, without expensive post production fiddling with   
   the film.   
      
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