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   From: g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies   
      
   In message    
     Siri Cruise  wrote:   
   > In article ,   
   >  Lewis  wrote:   
      
   >> In message    
   >>   Paul Elam  wrote:   
   >> >   “&” is an infamous and anonymous internet troll   
   >>   
   >> Never heard of him.   
   >>   
   >> > He launches scurrilous, defamatory, trivializing and false diatribes   
   >> > against Men’s Rights activists   
   >>   
   >> Well, it's hard not to be on his side then. MRA is a lot like "White   
   >> Power", a bunch of over-privileged dudes whining that they are being   
   >> oppressed.   
      
   > So if a marriage goes sour, including a marriage with issue, are you saying   
   the   
   > property division and child custody are overall equal over all divorces?   
      
   The statistics say they are. My own experiences with friends who have   
   divorced say they are. The only case I know of where the husband claimed   
   he was "screwed" in custody, alimony, and division of property was one   
   where he was a complete asshole and tried to hide his assets and his   
   idea of a "fair" division was that he got all the money and the property   
   and she got nothing but the kids. the judge did not take kindly to the   
   revelation that he had accounts he'd not revealed to the court and, I   
   suspect some of the final ruling was punitive.   
      
   > (Yeah, sometimes one spouse or the other is such a creep they get shafted.   
   But   
   > overall if men and women are equal, the overall outcomes will be equal.)   
      
   Many men do not *want* custody, which skews results if you simply look   
   at "number of men who get custody." Yes, it is true that women get   
   custody of children more often, so you have to look at the cases where   
   custody is contested by both parents.   
      
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