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   From: albasani.kook@albasani.net"   
      
   Last Tuesday a 25-year-old woman in Chicago was waiting at the   
   bus stop in the early morning when she was approached by a 19-   
   year-old man with a gun. The Chicago Tribune describes what   
   happened next:   
      
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   Laavion Goings Jr. was out of jail only two months when the 19-   
   year-old walked up to a bus stop about a block from his home,   
   pulled out a gun and tried to rob a woman on the Far South Side.   
      
   But the woman had a gun too and fired first, hitting Goings in   
   the chest, according to Chicago police. The teen ran back to his   
   home and made it as far as a stairwell in the foyer of a   
   building before collapsing in the 400 block of West 103rd Street.   
      
   That’s where officers found him shortly before 6 a.m. Tuesday,   
   just minutes after the shooting. He died within an hour at   
   Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn.   
      
   Video from across the street apparently captured the incident so   
   police know exactly what happened. The intended victim had a   
   concealed carry permit for her gun so she is not in any trouble   
   with authorities. This is a clear case of self-defense.   
      
   Enter Zack Ford, an editor at Think Progress who was   
   outrageously outraged that conservatives at the Dailly Caller   
   were celebrating the fact that a woman defended herself with a   
   gun against an armed mugger. (As I was writing this, Ford   
   deleted all of his tweets, but screenshots exist.)   
      
      
      
   By the time I saw that tweet it had about 4,000 responses and   
   fewer than 200 had liked it. Truly a ratio for the ages. When   
   Zack was called on this by his own followers he doubled down   
   (from here).   
      
      
      
   So she shouldn’t have had a gun even in this case where she used   
   it to defend herself against an armed mugger. What was she   
   supposed to do then, exactly? If you guessed ‘not fight back’   
   then you’re tracking well with Zack Ford’s mindset (from here):   
      
   She should have “let him rob her.” That’s a great piece of   
   armchair quarterbacking from a guy who probably hasn’t ever had   
   a gun pointed at him. What happens if, having collected her   
   purse, the mugger decides to drag her around the corner and rape   
   her? Should she let that happen too? What if he’s high and   
   shoots her for no real reason? The point is, Zack Ford has no   
   idea what would have happened next if the woman hadn’t been   
   armed. More importantly, she had no idea either. All she knew in   
   that moment was that a man was pointing a gun at her and making   
   demands.   
      
   It’s worth noting that this guy has been in trouble with the law   
   before. From the Chicago Sun-Times:   
      
   Laavion Goings had been released from Cook County Jail two   
   months earlier after pleading guilty to a drug charge and was on   
   probation at the time of the robbery, according to authorities.   
      
   Goings pleaded guilty Nov. 1 to possession of methamphetamine,   
   Cook County court records showed. He had initially also faced   
   six counts of aggravated battery to a peace officer in   
   connection with the same case, but the charges were later   
   dropped by prosecutors.   
      
   To be very clear, I’m not suggesting he deserved to die. I am   
   suggesting that he had a record and a history of violent,   
   unpredictable behavior that would make it unwise for a young   
   woman to wait around and see what he decides to do after he   
   pulls a gun. Dana Loesch had a pretty sharp response along these   
   lines:   
      
      
   Dana Loesch   
   ?   
   @DLoesch   
    · 12h   
   Replying to @DLoesch   
   The idea that women should not defend themselves and instead   
   attend first to the wellbeing of their attacker is some of the   
   sickest BS ever. What a mind job.   
      
      
   Dana Loesch   
   ?   
   @DLoesch   
   If you target a woman and attack her she has every right to drop   
   you. Make predators afraid — as opposed to shaming women for   
   wanting to live or not be assaulted or violated.   
      
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   437 people are talking about this   
   But if you think it’s just the NRA that supports this kind of   
   self-defense, think again. I watched three different local news   
   reports on this story (two of them are below) and all of the   
   local residents say the woman did the right thing (and many   
   believe the mugger got what he deserved). Note, these were all   
   black, Chicago residents who are probably not arch-conservatives   
   or NRA members. One older gentleman in the 2nd clip below says,   
   “I don’t feel sorry for the guy at all, I feel sorry for her.”   
      
   At some point, someone must have gotten through to Zack Ford. He   
   deleted his tweets and posted this apology thread:   
      
      
   Zack Ford   
   ?   
   @ZackFord   
    · 10h   
      
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