XPost: alt.food.vegan.science, talk.politics.animals, alt.animal   
   .ethics.vegetarian   
      
   On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 Goo wrote:   
      
   >dh pointed out:   
   >   
   >> On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:59:18 +0100, "pearl"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> "Dragonblaze"  wrote in message ne   
   s:718efc1a-b7e4-46c2-8005-20f0aa3b5ba5@l43g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...   
   >>>   
   >>>> Scientists have found that consuming vegetarian, meat-free diet leads   
   >>>> to brain shrinkage.   
   >>> No they haven't.   
   >>   
   >>     You have in the past explained how you think non-existent   
   >> frogs survive the draining of rice fields, etc. Think about that...   
   >   
   >You have in the past blabbered that non-existent animals can be "denied"   
   >something;   
      
   "EVEN WITH the very best animal welfare conditions one   
   might provide:  they STILL might not be as good as the   
   "pre-existence" state was" - Goo   
      
   >how they can experience "unfairness";   
      
   "When the entity moves from "pre-existence" into the   
   existence we know, we don't know if that move improves   
   its welfare." - Goo   
      
   >how they can experience "loss"   
      
   "Unless we know with certainty that the entity's welfare   
   improves when it moves from "pre-existence" into the   
   life we can detect, we cannot conclude that life is a   
   benefit to it." - Goo   
      
   >and "deprivation".   
      
   "Coming into existence is not a benefit to them:  it does   
   not make them better off than before" - Goo   
      
   >Those are your true thoughts, not "mistakes".   
      
       In contrast to that lie: When I made mistakes like that   
   they were mistakes, but you do OBVIOUSLY believe that   
   something to do with every being's pre-existence prevents   
   it from benefitting from life.   
      
   "The only way that the concept "benefit from existence"   
   can begin to make sense semantically is if one assumes   
   a pre-existent state" - Goo   
      
   "coming into existence didn't make me better off than   
   I was" - Goo   
      
   >Think about that   
      
       You provide nothing to think about Goob, almost certainly   
   because of your brain shrinkage. You claim that our own   
   pre-existence prevents us from benefitting from our current   
   existence, yet you have absolutely no clue how you think   
   it manages to do so. It's an extremely stupid idea that you   
   are clueless to explain, yet you have complete and total   
   faith in the apparently very stupid concept. I again challenge   
   you to try to explain the incredibly stupid concept. GO:   
      
   (And I again correctly predict the Goober is far too inept   
   to even make an attempt to explain himself, because we   
   know from much past experience that he IS too inept.)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)