XPost: alt.food.vegan.science, talk.politics.animals, alt.animal   
   .ethics.vegetarian   
      
   On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Goo lied extremely blatantly:   
      
   >dh pointed out AGAIN:   
   >   
   >> You claim that our own   
   >> pre-existence prevents us from benefitting from our current   
   >> existence,   
   >   
   >No, I do not claim that, nor have I said anything that any rational   
   >person might innocently misapprehend to mean that.   
      
       You certainly do here Goo:   
      
   "Life is not a gain because there *was* no person to   
   experience the gain" - Goo   
      
   and you most certainly do it with animals here Goo:   
      
   "Before being alive, an animal has no well-being to promote.   
   THEREFORE, Fuckwit, existence is not benefit to farm animals."   
    - Goo   
      
   and you do it with all entities here Goo:   
      
   "Prior to existing, there was no entity, and thus no welfare"   
   - Goo   
      
   and you certainly do it for your own stupid ass in particular   
   here, Goob:   
      
   "coming into existence didn't make me better off than   
   I was before." - the Goober   
      
   Here before us we have 4 examples of you insisting that   
   something to do with pre-existence is preventing us all   
   from benefitting from our existence. That much is clear   
   and obvious Goo. But what you CAN NOT do Goober,   
   is to explain HOW you think anything to do with   
   pre-existence prevents us from benefitting. As we can   
   clearly see you claim that it does, and as we can also   
   very clearly see you're incapable of even trying to   
   explain HOW! If you think you can, then try. Go:   
      
   (Correct prediction: the Goober can't even make   
   an attempt, nor can he provide any example(s) of   
   him having ever made the attempt much less   
   succeeded.)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)