XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian   
      
   On Wed, 6 May 2009 23:30:32 -0700, "Dutch"  wrote:   
      
   >   
   > wrote   
   >>    Considering the animals' lives is a necessary part of   
   >> evaluating whether or not it's cruel TO THEM for humans   
   >> to raise them for food. What you need to do is explain   
   >> why you think it's ethically superior for people to REFUSE   
   >> to take that aspect into consideration. GO:   
   >   
   >If we were evaluating whether or not it was cruel to humans to raise them   
   >for food, would it be necessary to "consider their lives"?   
      
       Of course it would.   
      
   >Why or why not?   
      
       Because that's the most significant aspect of trying to   
   make such an evaluation. That's just the way it is man   
   and the way it always has been, and there's no way it   
   could ever change, so there's really no reason for you   
   to keep trying to fight the fact. If you really can't understand   
   why then it is because you can only consider it from your   
   own position without even being able to attempt thinking   
   about it from the others' pov. That's not just a random   
   insult, but something you would need to get over in order   
   to actually become the sort of person you act like you   
   want to be. But then you'd have to accept the fact that   
   I've been correct by telling you all this over and over for   
   years and years, and that I really have been trying to   
   help you people while you've been insulting me for it,   
   which happens to be exactly the way it is and has been   
   all this time...   
      
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