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   Billzz to Dutch   
   Re: Michael Jackson, vegetarian, dead at   
   07 Jul 09 20:02:41   
   
   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.california   
   From: billzzstring@starband.net   
      
   "Dutch"  wrote in message   
   news:zxT4m.24333$Qk7.18265@newsfe22.iad...   
   > John Mayson wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, K wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> John Mayson wrote:   
   >>>> On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, K wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> It isn't an issue at all killing carrots.  The problem for people who   
   >>>>> claim to be vegetarian for ethical reasons is that animals are killed   
   >>>>> in the course of producing vegetable crops.  There is no such thing as   
   >>>>> produce that is free of animal deaths.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I have never killed anything with my garden, therefor there is such a   
   >>>> thing as produce that is free from animal deaths.   
   >>>   
   >>> You don't eat only food from your garden.  You eat some commercially   
   >>> grown and distributed food, too.  The production of that food causes   
   >>> animals to die.   
   >>   
   >> No.... the OP claimed "animals are killed in the course of producing   
   >> vegetable crops".  I'm pointing out no animals have ever been killed by   
   >> my garden.   
   >>   
   >> John   
   >   
   > While it is possible to raise crops by hand without killing animals, it is   
   > not possible to feed the human race with individually hand-tended gardens.   
   > Also, even most small gardens must be defended from pests like slugs.   
   >   
   > I understand the squeamishness people feel about killing animals, but at a   
   > certain point it becomes a pathology.   
      
   http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-rabbits7-2009jul07,0,6345474.story   
      
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